That bridge went down quicker than Bruno Fernandes
Was it a terror attack?
Did they find an Iranian or Russian passport floating nearby?
Thoughts are with everyone involved in season 2 of the Wire, especially Frank Sobotka and family who worked in the Docks and will be impacted by this tragic accident.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Sy4twXSn0
As someone who has to travel over two rivers to get to work I may have to review my career choices after seeing this.
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
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Not the first time this ship has done this by all accounts.
Expecting the name Albert Trotter to be on the crew list somewhere...
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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An artic and two vehicles just making it across right to left. Thankfully, no more obvious. Flashing lights on the bridge suggests there might have been overnight maintenance taking place, however?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
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Not the first time this ship has done this by all accounts.
Expecting the name Albert Trotter to be on the crew list somewhere...
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Do Boeing make boats?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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An artic and two vehicles just making it across right to left. Thankfully, no more obvious. Flashing lights on the bridge suggests there might have been overnight maintenance taking place, however?
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Expected that 20 construction workers minimum in the water for over 5 hours.
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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Watching that clip, it does seem that the ship veered to starboard shortly before impact ! maybe it was steerage failure or engine failure, also their were two pilots on board at the time ,so it must have been something unavoidable.
Ironic that there seems crash barriers around the electrical pylons just before it but none around the facking bridge itself..? Not that anything was stopping that massive facker.
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
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Shame you weren't around during the days of the titanic. They could have done with this sort of insight back then.
comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
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Deadweight (practical max load) 117k tons roughly equivalent to 60,000 cars.
Should they change the song to Baltimore Bridge is falling down?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ironic that there seems crash barriers around the electrical pylons just before it but none around the facking bridge itself..? Not that anything was stopping that massive facker.
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Will definitely be a new policy regarding the safety of bridges in the US, as everything is dictated by tragedies as opposed to common sense. It's even worse here in the US where policy is dictated by those lobbying.
Do Boeing make boats?
More like "Do Boeing make bridges?"
The structural engineers got that one wrong.
It is not as if such an event on a busy waterway was never going to happen. Big knee-jerk reactions in the offing.
Any similar designs all over the world will be frantically checked.
Why did the structural engineers get that one wrong?
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 16 minutes ago
Do Boeing make boats?
More like "Do Boeing make bridges?"
The structural engineers got that one wrong.
It is not as if such an event on a busy waterway was never going to happen. Big knee-jerk reactions in the offing.
Any similar designs all over the world will be frantically checked.
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They'll have classified it as a 1 in 10,000 years risk and carried on. Not sure any reasonable structure could have withstood the impact?
I strongly disagree with your risk assessment as it is a busy commercial waterway. Also, only the parts of the bridge between adjacent pylons should have collapsed not the whole structure.
It is fortunate that it didn't happen at rush-hour!
AP
From 1960 to 2015, there have been 35 major bridge collapses worldwide due to ship or barge collision, with a total of 342 people killed, according to a 2018 report from the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure.
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 26 minutes ago
I strongly disagree with your risk assessment as it is a busy commercial waterway. Also, only the parts of the bridge between adjacent pylons should have collapsed not the whole structure.
It is fortunate that it didn't happen at rush-hour!
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Thats ridiculous. Do you expect everything to be built in the eventuality of a catastrophic event?
All houses are beefed up with bomb proof walls if a chance that a car cannons into it?
You design a bridge to be able to withstand the conditions it will occur. A bridge that can withstand a f**king 116,851 ton ship moving at 6kts (no such bridge exists) - would be vulnerable to alternative more likely failure occurences (hurricanes, high maintenance issues)
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
AP
From 1960 to 2015, there have been 35 major bridge collapses worldwide due to ship or barge collision, with a total of 342 people killed, according to a 2018 report from the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure.
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It sounds like Baltimore is roughly maintaining the deaths per incident average.
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posted on 26/3/24
That bridge went down quicker than Bruno Fernandes
posted on 26/3/24
Was it a terror attack?
Did they find an Iranian or Russian passport floating nearby?
posted on 26/3/24
Thoughts are with everyone involved in season 2 of the Wire, especially Frank Sobotka and family who worked in the Docks and will be impacted by this tragic accident.
posted on 26/3/24
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Sy4twXSn0
As someone who has to travel over two rivers to get to work I may have to review my career choices after seeing this.
posted on 26/3/24
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
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Not the first time this ship has done this by all accounts.
Expecting the name Albert Trotter to be on the crew list somewhere...
posted on 26/3/24
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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An artic and two vehicles just making it across right to left. Thankfully, no more obvious. Flashing lights on the bridge suggests there might have been overnight maintenance taking place, however?
posted on 26/3/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Money is on electrical generator failure - stuff like that doesn't just happen without something significant taking out the steering with pilots on board.
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Not the first time this ship has done this by all accounts.
Expecting the name Albert Trotter to be on the crew list somewhere...
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Do Boeing make boats?
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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An artic and two vehicles just making it across right to left. Thankfully, no more obvious. Flashing lights on the bridge suggests there might have been overnight maintenance taking place, however?
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Expected that 20 construction workers minimum in the water for over 5 hours.
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Vorsprung durch Poch (U1641)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://x.com/aliifil1/status/1772523806994595937?s=46&t=J14V0lWek8qoBzQ8v6i_yw
2:40 in
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Watching that clip, it does seem that the ship veered to starboard shortly before impact ! maybe it was steerage failure or engine failure, also their were two pilots on board at the time ,so it must have been something unavoidable.
posted on 26/3/24
Ironic that there seems crash barriers around the electrical pylons just before it but none around the facking bridge itself..? Not that anything was stopping that massive facker.
posted on 26/3/24
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
posted on 26/3/24
comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
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Shame you weren't around during the days of the titanic. They could have done with this sort of insight back then.
posted on 26/3/24
comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not to forget that the ship was fully loaded with quite a few thousand tons of weight in motion, and the bridge section that was hit ,no way could withstand that sort of impact ,even at a very low speed .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Deadweight (practical max load) 117k tons roughly equivalent to 60,000 cars.
posted on 26/3/24
Should they change the song to Baltimore Bridge is falling down?
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Ironic that there seems crash barriers around the electrical pylons just before it but none around the facking bridge itself..? Not that anything was stopping that massive facker.
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Will definitely be a new policy regarding the safety of bridges in the US, as everything is dictated by tragedies as opposed to common sense. It's even worse here in the US where policy is dictated by those lobbying.
posted on 26/3/24
Do Boeing make boats?
More like "Do Boeing make bridges?"
The structural engineers got that one wrong.
It is not as if such an event on a busy waterway was never going to happen. Big knee-jerk reactions in the offing.
Any similar designs all over the world will be frantically checked.
posted on 26/3/24
Why did the structural engineers get that one wrong?
posted on 26/3/24
Sleepy Joe at the wheel
posted on 26/3/24
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 16 minutes ago
Do Boeing make boats?
More like "Do Boeing make bridges?"
The structural engineers got that one wrong.
It is not as if such an event on a busy waterway was never going to happen. Big knee-jerk reactions in the offing.
Any similar designs all over the world will be frantically checked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They'll have classified it as a 1 in 10,000 years risk and carried on. Not sure any reasonable structure could have withstood the impact?
posted on 26/3/24
I strongly disagree with your risk assessment as it is a busy commercial waterway. Also, only the parts of the bridge between adjacent pylons should have collapsed not the whole structure.
It is fortunate that it didn't happen at rush-hour!
posted on 26/3/24
AP
From 1960 to 2015, there have been 35 major bridge collapses worldwide due to ship or barge collision, with a total of 342 people killed, according to a 2018 report from the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure.
posted on 26/3/24
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 26 minutes ago
I strongly disagree with your risk assessment as it is a busy commercial waterway. Also, only the parts of the bridge between adjacent pylons should have collapsed not the whole structure.
It is fortunate that it didn't happen at rush-hour!
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Thats ridiculous. Do you expect everything to be built in the eventuality of a catastrophic event?
All houses are beefed up with bomb proof walls if a chance that a car cannons into it?
You design a bridge to be able to withstand the conditions it will occur. A bridge that can withstand a f**king 116,851 ton ship moving at 6kts (no such bridge exists) - would be vulnerable to alternative more likely failure occurences (hurricanes, high maintenance issues)
posted on 26/3/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
AP
From 1960 to 2015, there have been 35 major bridge collapses worldwide due to ship or barge collision, with a total of 342 people killed, according to a 2018 report from the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure.
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It sounds like Baltimore is roughly maintaining the deaths per incident average.
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