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ArabTrust Statement on FFP & VS

FFP being Financial Fair Play and VS being Voting Structure of course....


In response to messages and emails from individual members in respect of current SPL matters, including the voting structure and financial fair play, we thought it appropriate to inform all members of our position and actions to date:

ArabTRUST has representation in the Boardroom of Dundee United, so as a supporters' group we are in a unique position to be kept fully informed of and indeed, where possible, influence, the policy of the Club.

Our position has always been that we fully support the introduction of stringent and pro-active financial fair play rules and support moves to make the SPL more democratic.

We believe that the majority of our members and indeed United supporters, would agree with any measures which would help prevent the difficulties experienced at Dundee FC, Motherwell, Livingston, Gretna and now Glasgow Rangers and the ongoing situation at Hearts.

You may be aware that strict financial fair play rules were called for in the Supporters Direct 'Fan's Plan' which came about from a survey of Scottish Trusts last year (well before, for example, Rangers went into administration). Unfortunately this did not attract much attention at the time, but now of course appears prophetic. Details of the fans' plan can be found on the Supporters Direct website.

We will reinforce these views and discuss the new developments announced this week with Chairman Stephen Thompson at an early meeting. We have also asked Supporters Direct to raise the matter at a meeting with Neil Doncaster and Stuart Regan which is scheduled for later this month as we believe a collective approach on these issues carries more weight.

We think it is fair to say that these individuals are well aware that the vast majority of Scottish football supporters do not wish to see any club receive preferential treatment with regard to financial fair play or in facing the consequences of any breaches in the rules.



So it seems that these measures were being discussed long before Rangers went into administration?

Hmm....but I thought this was the rebel 10 (majority), led by Stephen Thompson, all sticking the boot into Rangers?

I'm sure now that it's been made abundantly clear that moves were in place to implement measures such as those now announced well before Rangers financially perilous situation was announced, the Rangers fans who have been utterly about this will now calm down and realise everyone is not really out to get them.

posted on 12/4/12

The OF support the SPL financially, not the other way round.
Orwellian? Aye when 50,000 get to out-vote 100,000.
Ivan, been on the drink tonight?
Orwellian. FPTP is a political tool alright.

posted on 12/4/12

Quebec, what about cup finals??? 1955 was the last time we had a season when the OF didnt get a single trophy, do you think thats healthy?? And even in the nine in a row for rangers celtic still won 3 cups, more than some clubs have ever won.

posted on 12/4/12

Sober as a judge

Honestly mate, when are you going to realise that you can't have a league with 2 teams in it? You might well support us, but that doesn't mean that you get to rule us.

I honestly truly hope the 10 clubs resign from this disgusting, money-orientated SPL and rejoin the SFL. We might be poorer for it, but the game in our country will be much healthier as a result.

Football is a sport, sport is about competition, and there is no competition in the SPL.

posted on 12/4/12

Quebec, like i said at the start take all the sky money that'll do me i'd rather have no sky money and no OF and all the games at 3pm on a saturday. Then you can join the blue square league and start again Then everyones happy anyway i've got work in the morning, someones got to pay their taxes right

posted on 12/4/12

Ivan, i'd be happy to go back to the SFL if things are not going to change. Would probably buy a couple of bricks at tannadice to give the club a bit of extra cash.

posted on 12/4/12

Definitely - that's the thing - they keep saying that the clubs will die if the Old Firm disappear...they won't. People will still go. If we can keep going through 20 years of Old Firm dominated monotony then we can bloomin well keep going when we might have a chance of winning something!

We will survive - maybe as a smaller club, maybe in the equivalent of the League of Ireland, but they'll still be there and I'll still go to Tannadice every second week.

comment by Barab83 (U1858)

posted on 13/4/12

The thing is, no one outside the ugly sisters gives a flying fck about the OF, personally I would like to see the both of them GTF ASAP, i'm sick of the constant keech that spews from the both of them.....If they cant handle a democratic system then pash off and let the rest of us enjoy our football.........Go to engurlund and see how you both are as small fish in a larger bowl!!!!!

posted on 13/4/12

Ivan - and all other Arabs - believe me when I say this;

If Celtic & Rangers were to leave the SPL, the league would be semi pro within 12 months.

Hearts would go to the wall, as would probably at least 2 other clubs.

Your own club, who rarely has a sell out at home, even for the OF visits, would possibly survive, but on a far lesser scale.

Reduced TV income (if any).
=
Reduced sponsors (less publicity)
=
Reduced income (added to falling gates)
=
BIG TROUBLE.

It is well known that your chairman has it "in for Rangers" and to a lesser extent Celtic. He suffers from the feeling that Utd should be the leading team in Scotland, with absolutely no evidence to back this up.

This is a shame, as Utd can produce good players & good teams, but with Thompson in charge will always be seen as also rans.

Remember the Golden Rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

comment by Barab83 (U1858)

posted on 13/4/12

remember the other golden rule........he who talks shlt goes down the toilet.

posted on 13/4/12

Cooper, i find it pretty ironic that a rangers man is trying to give out advice on how anything to do with football should be run, dont you???? I mean you support a team with millions of fans and you win trophies every year all the time............................and look at the state your in!!!!!!! Dont you think that maybe you dont actually have a clue of the best option

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