I’ve left Mancini’s pathetic champions league record for last but when I look at his CV I can’t think that it’s anything but a combination of bad luck and bad tactics on bad days. I haven’t seen his early champions league games with Inter, I only have the evidence of the City games of which I thought after being too cautious which is to be expected and bad tactics when you played Napoli in Naples, you should have played for a draw in that game he has had an ordinary European start just like Ferguson and Wenger did.
Remember both coaches had poor starts in Europe with their respective clubs.
Wenger hasn’t really managed to crack Europe but pound for pound will make any top 5 list of best managers in the world and we all know why.
Like the little girl who sent Roberto the pack of Fruit Pastilles City fans need to appreciate the man running your club.
Lastly the one thing I have always liked is a manager who remains calm, especially when you are over seeing a domestic campaign. A lot of things change in the course of a season and mancini’s good grace, calm celebrations and the willingness to improve the squad as a whole is something I cant help but notice. Yes he does seem to over play Yaya and Silva but I think he hasn’t learnt to trust the others. Being an explayer at the highest level is a bonus, I always feel former players no more about what they are talking about rather than a Mourinho for example
The only time Roberto lost his rag was the Tevez incident in Munich, other than that he has been the calmest man at the club. I think about Balotelli he was misquoted and at the same time also used the opportunity to tell Mario that he is in the last chance saloon.
I don’t think the quip about not being in the title race is mind games. He is just being honest. I believe like Arsene he is the type of manager who expects his team to deliver irrespective of mind games.
I’m sorry about the long article, just realised I have put this on the united board as a few of your fans have time for Mancini and I wanted to hear your thoughts.
P.S. Another interesting fact about Mancini, did you know that until united dumped City out of the FA cup this season he had been to a semifinal or better of ever national cup competition for each team he has managed.
Why dont people rate Mancini?part 2
posted on 13/4/12
True, but it's not quite what you said originally. Last season, we didn't get past the third round of the CC due to a selection of kids against West Brom. Although I'd forgive him that because we got the FA Cup instead.
posted on 13/4/12
P.S. Another interesting fact about Mancini, did you know that until united dumped City out of the FA cup this season he had been to a semifinal or better of ever national cup competition for each team he has managed.
That's what he said which doesn't really make sense as we got to the FA Cup semi last season, I just pointed out that we got to a semi this year as well.
posted on 13/4/12
Sorry Boris. That'll teach me to not read the original article.
posted on 13/4/12
Remember both coaches had poor starts in Europe with their respective clubs.
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Man utd won the european cup winners cup first time asking after the ban on england for europe was lifted.
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The 1990–91 season of the European Cup Winners' Cup was won by Manchester United against Barcelona. It was a great return to European football for English clubs, who had endured a five-year ban after the Heysel Stadium disaster.
posted on 13/4/12
The European Cup Winners Cup, eh? Wow, and there was me thinking it was a second tier competition. That's what we get told when we mention our winning it...
posted on 13/4/12
3 days after Chris Foy (abley assisted by Wayne Rooney) "dumped" City out of the cup we played Liverpool in the Carling Cup Semi-Final.
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A few months after referee helped City (abley assisted by Mario Ballotelli) "beat" United at Old Trafford.
posted on 13/4/12
"A few months after referee helped City (abley assisted by Mario Ballotelli) "beat" United at Old Trafford."
The key difference being Balotelli didn't chase down the referee and ask for a card to be waved.
Oh, that and the fact we hit you three times in four minutes because of your comikaze* defending.
* An amalagam of "comical" and "kamikaze". Because you killed yourself and it was hilarious to watch you do it.
posted on 13/4/12
Chase down?!
Chase down?!?
You have a very interesting definition of the word chase, if that can actually be classed as a chase it must hold some kind of world record as the shortest one. Also granted my sign language isn't brilliant but does what just looks like a footballer appealing for a free kick actually mean send this player off?
If so then we have players regularly asking for other players to be sent off, even if the ball just nicked off that person and went out for a throw...
Not sure what the second part has to do with anything but yes our defending at the end could easily be described as comikaze (nice word)
posted on 13/4/12
Rooney ran at the referee waving his arm in the air and his hand positioned in a way which could conceivably be holding something rectangular and flat. Now I could be wrong, but the very fact he approached the referee when NOBODY ELSE saw anything wrong, the fact that Foy only reached into his pocket AFTER Rooney's antics, would lead me to suspect that there was some influence.
As for the second bit, it's totally relevant as you suggested the ref won us the game, when in fact he didn't, you gave us a massive win by trying too hard to get a draw.
posted on 13/4/12
Rooney did move a bit more then I remembered, it could still not be classed as chasing as the referee was going in Rooney's direction anyway...
Rooney had his arms outstretched appealing, players appeal all the time that doesn't mean they are actually credited with the corner, yellow card, red card or penalty.
There was one person and one person only who got Kompany sent off. That was Kompany himself. If it makes you feel better to blame Rooney then go for it but I am pretty sure that is not what the referee's report reads.
Also Foy got his card out within seconds, it would have been extremely difficult for him to get a card out before Rooney appealed as he appealed the second the challenge was made. Do you actually watch football?
Players usually appeal within about half a second whereas a referee has to actually make a decision and pull the card out of his pocket, try having a race with a friend where all he has to do is appeal for the decision whereas you have to evaluate the incident and pull out the relevant card. Unless your friend suffers from some badly delayed reactions he will beat you to it every time...
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As for the second bit, it's totally relevant as you suggested the ref won us the game
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Actually what I was suggesting was that if you going to give credit for United's victory to the referee than you also have to give credit for City's victory to the referee. They both spotted red card offences and handed out red cards for them which to some people is winning the game for the opposition.
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you gave us a massive win by trying too hard to get a draw.
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I guess congratulations are in order for your MASSIVE win then, what did you win for it?