When was/will it be over for you?

No time for I told you so's. Always admired you McT for your Optimism and Measured opinion, even If I didn't always agree. Polarising points often push each other away from sublime to ridiculous, at least there's always been reasoned debate... unlike some others

"No time for I told you so's. Always admired you McT for your Optimism and Measured opinion, even If I didn't always agree. Polarising points often push each other away from sublime to ridiculous, at least there's always been reasoned debate... unlike some others"

No told you so's from me. Maccy and I have had many a discussion and for the most kept it very civil and he knows I respect his views, even if not always agreeing.

There is just far to much to even comprehend and so many ifs and buts in my eyes.

The only saving grace in all of this is that we aren't doing a Leeds or Pompey financially, if anything Venky's have done their level best to save money and reduces costs, hopefully leave whoever is in changes on the touchline and upstairs with a decent chances of getting us promoted.

On a lighter note, I've got an absolute glut of away days in and around London if we are in the Championship

Mr Mac if that clown Kean is still in charge next season it could be division 1 for us ,well we are not down yet,Kean has won 12 games from 62 in charge not a very good tally!

TOLD YOU SO! NA NA NA NA NAAAAAA!

The point of us not being Leeds/Pompey is valid though their behaviour is still concerning. By reducing the wage bill we have reduced quality, ifthis continues we will continue to drop. If Venkys can ensure turnover remains level with income then they can profit from player sales and parachute payments.

As Oojw has said previously, death by 1,000 paper cuts...

There in lies the pudding Sir Pie, we've quite heavily reduced costs and wages and looked to promote from the academy and sign young 'potential' and develop players ourselves.

On paper this is excellent and really how middle to lower football clubs need to operate, just look at how well Swansea are doing it.

The simple fact is that on the pitch it has completely backfired, but if we are to be relegated we are in a financially sound position to deal with it.

I'd be terrified if we had average old hacks on massive wages like Pompey, QPR, West Ham and Leeds etc have/did.

Or just NOT get relegated.

Swansea is fine but took an age, Martinez before Rogers, from manager to scouts to tea lady. Building bottom to top is much easier than top to bottom as Chelsea have proved.

I'm aware we won't go out of business but nor will we compete. It didn't need to happen like this and those that said it was idiocy were fired, Allardyce, Williams, Finn etc.

Twenty years hard work literally torn up on 12 months!

Twenty years hard work literally torn up on 12 months!
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or or ? I just don't know! I think it is a little of all 3

Nah no chance of staying up for me the game that i though that could send us down was Bolton away it was the start of half hearted performances the Liverpool game confirmed it for me

Wigan 2-0 up against Arsenal in less than 10 minutes, that in itself shows the difference between us and other teams that could drop...