Would you rather...

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but remember gradel and howson cost nothing but both commanded a fee,same as a few hundred grand for snoddy turned into 3million fee is good business but bates cant make him stay,he will want to play in the prem and double his wages,he'd be stupid if he didnt

but as you said,difficult to replace them

Sir Kenneth Bates

I think it similarly a shame when players the club have plucked from obscurity and paid handsomely show no loyalty to the club and demand a transfer to play in the PL at the earliest opportunity, or who bottle it and depart for a Championship club purely for money or decide to go overseas to some Bistro Club because they are homesick.

Gradel did cost a small fee from Leicester and they got a slice out of the sale in August. I agree it's good business, but it's no consolation if you're the manager.

you can bet if vayrynen was on 10k a week then forssel must be on the same,thats a million down the drain for a start + o'dea?

joe, remember forssell is a goal machine, probably on even more!

Whoever decides what to pay players must base it on history/experience rather than the present. A bit like what happens with players under contract at the club like Beckford and Johnson.

The first option, since the second option is a fantasy. If we sell Snodgrass, we'll still fulfill our transfers with loans and freebies and bargain bucket players because bates simply will not pay players money. He's set in his ways that "the bubble has burst, you're asking for more than you're worth" and as such will refuse to pay players the wages they can demand. Supply and demand, the backbone of capitalism and a so called businessman has forgotten, ignored or overlooked that.

it's a nice dream to say player's should show loyalty to the club that brought them through, but lets be honest... in the real world, snoddy's talents would have been noticed by some club, he'd be the star player there and top teams would take an interest. We haven't created this player and therefore he owes us. He may have improved whilst at the club but he'd have improved anywhere... its hardly like our coaching has been award winning. If we managed his contract well we'd make a tidy profit on it, and its the clubs fault (or gamble on making the premier league before his contract runs down, depending on how you see it) if we don't.

If he turned down a premier club. he'd be mad, he could get injured next season, take a dip in form etc.

Let's say he stays and has a career ending injury next year, ok he'll pick up an insurance payout, and get plenty of hard luck stories. The club won't be offering him a £20k a week contract as an ambassador out of sympathy though will they. They'll look after leeds united, and he should look after robert snodgrass.

I rate him highly and would love him to stay at Leeds, but if he has a chance to play in the premiership he should take it. It might not come again.

I wouldn't blame him in the slightest for leaving. But I will blame the club, he's called for ambition and they are likely to twist it into "he thought he was bigger than the club", selling him and making a nice profit that will not get spent on players. Well, some of it will but half of it will vanish into thin air as usual.