arrrrgghhhhh still cant believe we drew!!!!

Our lack of ability to get the job done when it really matters is what will cost us imo

Why on earth would Fergie leave Welbeck out ? He was excellent today. Drop Rooney into midfield to help out if need be. The only change i would make is Smalling in Rafael out. United have beaten City twice this season, lets make it 3 times.

merry - where I would disagree with your sentiment is that, IMO, we do get the job done when it needs doing. In fact we treat the likes of Everton too lightly and that is the main issue

Also if we score first (or go 4 -2 ahead) we think its over and lose concentration

I dont think we will got to city thinking 'easy' and that will be our saving grace, along with what I have been saying all day and that is mancini bottling it

Think LFC (if it wont give you nightmares) raise their game for us

I'm not saying we have no chance - it'll be a close game, probably only 1 goal in it. But I think our lack of numbers in CM is starting to catch up with us, and this is where I see us struggling

This would have been a perfect match to go with a midfield three of ando, carrick and scholes. However we can play 4-2-4 when we are attacking and 4-5-1 when we are defending. Ferdinand and Evans don't seem to cope with tall players or those that can hold the ball

LOL its not welbeck it was meant as beckham. Its a stupid private joke
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Oh, apologies

Anyway, I dont think Chicha will be anywhere near the starting 11 given Welbeck's performance today. I wouldnt mind seeing a 4-4-1-1, I would just seriously worry about Scholes. After about 70mins today he was completely shattered - players seemed to be walking past him. If this happens against the likes of Yaya, Silva and Nasri we are in trouble. That's why I would like to see an extra body in there, preferably in the shape of Jones or Cleverley.

I think complacency is the main problem and agree that lack of concentration has been a killer this season. Alt that in itself is a problem. Can you see us winning the 50-50 battles against a city team with their tails up? The complacency in itself suggests that we don't want it enough.

Colin - simply because I think Welbeck hasnt got the composure (despite his great goal today) in front of goal

As I said Welbeck is a brilliant player overall, TV does no justice to what he puts into each game. He is immense but just lacking in front of goal. I am certain that will come

On the flip side Roo has been way below par overall, yet keeps scoring so needs to get where he is most effective. for him to play that far forward welbeck is the one to make way, especially if all 3 of nani valencia and young play

we could also deploy the tactics stoke used against city; defend in three's and let their fullbacks get forward. They are their most deadly when the three (tevez, nasri and silva) are in the middle of your penalty area.

The biggest problem with that is that when our full backs get forward, they invariably pick met opposing defenders.

*out, not met