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Facts

1. A poor manager who saw a 7th place finish, in a season where we were in touch with the top 2, as overachievement, has been replaced by a good manager who won the league and has stated his intention to achieve promotion.

2. A promising young player has signed a new 4 year contract and stated he's excited about the manager's plans for the coming season.

3. A highly rated player has been signed to fill a problem position for us. The 500k fee had to be defended by Portsmouth's administrator as being too low, and there were rumours of interest from the Premier League.

4. It's only early June, pre-season training hasn't even started, so the fact that no one else has been signed is not in the slightest bit concerning.

That's not me putting a positive spin on anything, I'm just telling it how it is.

Everything else is rumour and speculation that's spreading negativity, and I don't see what purpose it serves other than to harm the club.

posted on 9/6/12

Yeah, potentially he wasn't fully fit, but that's one thing he used to favour just playing one winger in a 442 (probably to make us more compact). He used to love playing Johnson at LM, possibly a reason why he signed Pugh also after the departure of Gradel.

comment by Clive (U9178)

posted on 9/6/12

But then as Eddie Gray always says, if you're fit enough to be on the bench, you're fit enough to play, and surely it's worth a gamble in a game of that magnitude.

In a funny way the sending off and going a goal down probably helped us as it forced Grayson to go for it.

Remember when he always used to start with Hughesy at left back then sub him and drop Johnson back?

And don't forget centre halves at full back.

He's the most negative manager in football.

comment by I'm (U11483)

posted on 9/6/12

Be very careful trying to spread any form of positivity Clive bcuz folk just don't like it. Good article in the main although, just a pity that it has degenerated into the SG farce again.

For what it is worth Clive i don't rate SG either & firmly believe he left us in a mess & should have been binned long before.

However, thankfully he is now history & that is where he should be left.

posted on 9/6/12

Core blimey, I hope nobody's reading these boards that have just had major surgery, it could be life threatening!..

Being a Leeds fan should have a Government health warning stating that there are plenty of beds in the padded wards for those that cant sleep well!..

Priceless Best post on here for months, and I should know I've read a few...!

posted on 9/6/12

Would you ask for supporting evidence if someone said Messi was a better player than Paynter?

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Well..er.. I would hope for more evidence than just stating "Because he is."

The evidence in this article seems at present to put Grayson ahead until you prove otherwise. Again I now fully support Neil Warnock as he is now our manager as I did Grayson until he was fired.

Better still let the man go, I have. Though I haven't yet got over Don Revie leaving for England

comment by Clive (U9178)

posted on 9/6/12

Benny, I hope you can see it was never my intention for it to turn into a Grayson debate.

I knew I should have avoided calling him a poor manager even though it's the truth, but even if I'd have just said Warnock was better it would still have happened, and it's a point that needed to be made.

posted on 10/6/12

Clive, I understand where you are coming from, but calling him the most negative manager in football is ridiculous.

I give you Alex McLeish.

posted on 10/6/12

fact clive you are wrong on 1 & 4

posted on 10/6/12

since when has an opinion become a fact ?

posted on 10/6/12

here are some facts for you to chew on......
1.Larry got us promotion,
2. Finished 7th
3. Lost his job when in 10th place in the Championship, just three points off the play-offs.
4. Replaced by a manager who led his team to the worst home result in our history, & finnished in 16th now they are FACTS.....like it or lumpit

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