Is it just me that is glad that Fred has moved on from us. I know he coached JJ throughout his spell with us, but the one thing I will not miss, is JJ's and Boggers rubbish distribution and lack of ball control from defenders pass-backs. We were supposed to be a team that played it on the deck, but last season imo we hoofed it much more than the season before. Its terrible football, especially when we don't get results playing that way.
It has to be one of the most infuriating things seeing your defenders pass the ball across the back 4 and then back to the keeper who then launches it upfield bypassing the midfield and giving the ball away to the opposition. Thankfully, I now feel we are moving forward and away from our long ball days and if Owen and his team can make us hard to beat, could be a very enjoyable season.
Fred Barber....again
posted on 14/6/12
You can't pass the ball short if there isn't anyone there, nor can you expect to hit it on the chest of an attacker, 50 yards away if you are under pressure.
It's as simple as that.
posted on 14/6/12
Goalkeepers aren't always under pressure and there is usually a defender there.
So it isn't as simple as that.
posted on 14/6/12
Goalkeepers aren't always under pressure and there is usually a defender there.
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Not for Bolton there ain't.
Teams press us, all the way back to our keeper because they know that if our keeper goes long, their defenders will, 9 times out of 10, beat N'Gog and they'll get the ball back.
Or our goalkeeper to play the ball short, our full backs must be up on the halfway line and our centre backs should be very, very wide. That way, Bogdan essentially becomes a sweeper and we have me options for a pass.
I didn't see that once for us last season, but I saw nearly every other team do it.
Football is a simple game.
posted on 14/6/12
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posted on 15/6/12
Cannot believe what I've read here. We'd have been out of the Prem years ago without Jussi and would have gone down before christmas last season without Bogdan. A lot of credit has to go to Fred Barber for that. Picking on their shortcomings like this is absolutely unbelievable.
posted on 15/6/12
Madnot: Do you not think it is a point of discussion as to why, when Bolton Wanderers under Owen Coyle is supposed to be a footballing side, did they play long ball so much last season.
I'm not taking anything away from JJ or Barber I am just posing some questions as to why we all saw so much long ball last season. I think the lads above have pretty much answered it, but it is intriguing isn't it?
Was Owen Coyle responsible for giving instructions to kick it long or were the players doing it off their own backs or under direction from another coach? Hey, I'm just asking questions.
posted on 15/6/12
Fair enough JAH, but saying you're glad he's moved on suggests your mind is made up.
Coyle falls short sometimes, but even he wouldn't be so hopeless as to let his goalkeeping coach determine how the ball is played out from the keeper.
You'll regret being glad he's gone- we've had two of the best goalies in the Prem down to him. Pray to God that Coyle's replacement isn't as hopeless as the idiots he brought with him from Burnley to coach our our defence.
posted on 15/6/12
Just on another point - after reading the guff about us replacing Barber with the creaters of Brian Jensen - (in another thread, ahem Bricks, ahem) - may want to know that Jensen's first goalkeeping coach in England was...Fred Barber.
posted on 15/6/12
Also, also, I've done goalkeeping coaching and as much as distribution is taught it's more a technique thing rather than a you must do this.
Had a chat with one of my coaching teachers and Barber is regarded as one of the best about.
posted on 15/6/12
Cannot believe what I've read here. We'd have been out of the Prem years ago without Jussi and would have gone down before christmas last season without Bogdan. A lot of credit has to go to Fred Barber for that. Picking on their shortcomings like this is absolutely unbelievable.
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Could not agree more