Shay Given

comment by ColinsBargainBucket - COYBIG! (U6589)

posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago

I agree, although Torres barely played in the CL final, and without him Chelsea were probably only marginally more effective from open play than Ireland... it was only a setpiece header from Drogba in the last 5mins that saved Chelsea in that game.

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And who chased down a lost cause down the wing to win that set piece? Answers on a postcard.....

And who chased down a lost cause down the wing to win that set piece? Answers on a postcard.....

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Kriss akabusi??

HECTOR:
:He(Given) has been at fault for EVERY one of the goals in this tourney" >>>>>>>>>> How can you possibly have reached this conclusion! Please explain. I think Given has performed quite well and made some exceptional saves!

Reivers got a point Hector, Given made at least 2 world class saves last night!!!
We will probably never have a goalkeeper as good as him again
Spain actually had something like 15 shots inside our penalty area last night
On another night we could easily have lost 9 or 10-0!!!

I am not making him the scapegoat, Ireland as a team have been pretty poor throughout, nor have I said he didn't make a few great saves, merely that he has been at fault for all goals. Agrre that his defence has let him down but he should have, if he was the Given of 5 years ago, got a mitt to every one of them.

The Croatian game he was at fault for every goal, the Spain game, again, he should have got a hand to every ball, I concede that he was blinded for the Silva goal but imo, he still should have deflected a ball that was travelling at 10mph.

Sorry HECTOR, but we'll have to agree to disagree. IMO he could only have been partially faulted for the first goal(the slow, loopy header), but even then I still think he was very unlucky to find himself behind a wrong footed defence and unsighted by possibly 1/2 players. Also the header, though very slow, was quite well placed.

Lads getting there was the achievement anything else is a bonus. Given has been one of the top 2 players for ROI in the last 15 years. The amount of times he has stopped a goal by far outweighs losing two matches.

Well said Gawa! Look we all feel let down by the performances of the players but i dont its fair to be taking it out on Shay Given!

i would just love to be there - to slate a player who has been so big in the process of getting there is silly.

Not slating the man at all, just think he 'at fault'.