With all the racism charges and press over the last few months in a way I'm glad the furore has finally hit our club. Since Evra we've been perceived as self righteous victims by some and today we had our chance to shine.
And from the comments I've seen on here in relation to Rio's FA charge I'm glad to say we did shine. In the main we have agreed with the charge and we have expressed our disappointment at Rio's comments and his arrogance that he thinks he can attach his name to such ill conceived comments that were bound to cause offence to some. He therefore deserves his charge and if he wants to stay playing for our great club he needs to wind his neck in on twitter and think before he types.
And that's what it's about to me. The club and it's name is what matters, not some superstar individual who plays for us. As a player Rio is a great defender and I'd rather have him at the club than playing against us but the maturity of those fans who haven't backed him regardless has been refreshing and echoes what I have suspected ever since the Suerez incident occurred. That as fans, we put the club, it's name and it's history above anything else.
Look at the Livepool fans who for months have backed Suerez in the face of overwhelming evidence and anger from other fans who know what he did was wrong. Forget whether he's a racist, the words he said were wrong in this country and a sincere apology would have gone a long way to resolving the issue. As would some of their fans having the backbone to see the language was unacceptable.
Look at the Chelsea fans recently who've backed their captain unreservedly and in response to the FA charge last week were in uproar. This despite JT admitting he used those words. Again, regardless of the context etc he used those offensive words and he should have known better - exactly the same as Rio.
So United fans condone their player and accept the charge because we don't want players damaging the reputation of our club.
Liverpool and Chelsea fans take the other path.
Sanctimonious some may say about this post but whatever. As United fans we can hold our heads high tonight. Our board isn't awash with pleas for sympathy, or cries of injustice. We get on with it and move on, knowing our player was wrong and deserves to be punished.
Heads Held High United
posted on 31/7/12
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posted on 31/7/12
Little Pea I'm not accusing any of them of being racist. Privately I may have an opinion that at least one of them are but I can't prove that so expressing here is futile.
However, all three are stupid for doing what they did and deserve punishment so as to deter them from doing it again and others. That's as far as it goes. It's not about them being racists, it's about them using language that shouldn't be used.
As for Fergie getting the sack. I don't recall the boss coming out and backing Rio one bit about this. Idiotic comments from those trying to liken it to the disaster that was Kenny and Liverpool's reaction to Suerez.
posted on 31/7/12
comment by carrickature (U12844)
posted 44 minutes ago
Little Pea I'm not accusing any of them of being racist. Privately I may have an opinion that at least one of them are but I can't prove that so expressing here is futile.
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I didnt say you were. I was responding to your comment that none of this i.e. Terry, Suarez etc was about racism by saying that the allegations against those two were absolutely about racism or racist comments. Whether or not you think they were guilty is another debate, but the accusations were very much to do with the alleged comments being racist.
However, when it comes to Rio, despite his comments being stupid, I don't think the charge should be about racism or racist comments at all, because I dont see how what he has said was racist for the reasons I've already raised in previous comments given the definition of 'racist'.
posted on 31/7/12
Agreed little Pea.
And in relation to JT and Suerez I have downgraded what they did because I can't be bothered to get in to the same old debate with Chelsea/Liverpool fans.
If you do that and say all three are wrong and stupid then as per the article content, only United fans come out with any credit because we have condoned Rio's actions and agreed he should be charged and was stupid. Chelsea and Liverpool fans can't even do that, when arguably what their players did was far worse.
posted on 31/7/12
stupid or not ..he made a reference to the color of a mans skin.....
not on the same level as suarez .....
but rules are rules buddy........if suarez and terry are done..then the fa has to stick with its precident.....
suarez got an 8 game ban (rightfully so , im a liverpool fan )
so as other mancs have said....chin up and take the punishment
posted on 31/7/12
>>only United fans come out with any credit because
navel gazer
congrats, you didn't contest the indefensible, iron clad proof published to millions
you're our heroes
posted on 31/7/12
As for Fergie getting the sack. I don't recall the boss coming out and backing Rio one bit about this.
No, but he did call for Liverpool to sack Suarez, will he sack Rio?
posted on 31/7/12
comment by Half a Big Bite (U7237)
posted 5 minutes ago
As for Fergie getting the sack. I don't recall the boss coming out and backing Rio one bit about this.
No, but he did call for Liverpool to sack Suarez, will he sack Rio?
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When did he call for Liverpool to sack Suarez?
Also, what did Suarez do that made him make such a statement?
Many thanks
posted on 31/7/12
During the Suarez/Evra incident Ferguson said the club should kick him out or words to that effect.
Suarez used a term that could be construed as racially abusive, as did Ferdinand.
My pleasure
posted on 31/7/12
>.Also, what did Suarez do that made him make such a statement?
Actually it wasn't what Suarez said, it was the lie Evra told Fergie. Something to the effect of "boss, he called me nig&er"
Which was a calculated and bold faced lie.
I can understand why Fergie would call for us to sack Suarez after being told what can only be described as a glaring and vicious lie if you're being kind. If Suarez had dropped an N bomb of that magnitude we should have sacked his with extreme prejudice.
I don't think Fergie said anything after Evra changed his story.