because starting the season with only Rafael, Fabio and Evra seems daft considering the brazilian lads appear to be made out of glass!
I dont want to hear excuses about us being able to play Evans/Smalling/Jones/Valencia/Giggs in the full back slots because that - by my reckoning - is a completely unacceptable solution for a serious club!
Also, anyone know when we are selling Berbatov so that we can sign a striker who will turn up for more than 10 games next season?
Looking at the current situation - rags are now silent over any sneijder deal after reporting (LYING) about it being a done deal for over a week - is everyone happy to start the season* like this in midfield:
Nani - Carrick - Anderson - Young
*not just a starting line up but would be stuck with it until Jan.
So are we gonna sign Lahm or what?
posted on 15/7/11
Wouldnt it be best if we all didn't feel the need to highlight these genetic differences. This is how the n@zis justified their actions, quoting medical proof that we are not all of the same human footprint. Its actually b@ll@cks. What that cretin meant was that United need a fast guy up front, not a fast black guy. And rightly got moded for it.
posted on 15/7/11
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
Apparantly. The moderators seemed to think so as well.
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Well I'll choose to make my own mind up on this one then.
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Good for you.
posted on 15/7/11
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Elvis
Scientific facts are just that Scientific facts.
They don't excuse racial sterotyping.
Not all black people are athletes, not all white people are swimmers.
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I never said they were. He was talking about black footballers though wasnt he? Who I would consider to be athletes.
I will of course make an exception for Titus Bramble.
posted on 15/7/11
comment by Thunderkiss_65 (U2407)
It's not all black people, was watching a programme on it the other day. Apparently Jamaicans have a bigger chance, which is why despite being a small nation they have a high number of elite athletes.
Think Klitschko showed that it doesn't apply so much for boxing. Mayweather uses it well to dodge fights and run from Pac man tho
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It was a total mismatch to be fair. Haye couldnt get near him. With the reach advantage the speed of Haye was negated. Be interested in what would happen if they were of the same, or even similar build. Both very good fighters, but they shouldnt really have been fighting each other.
posted on 15/7/11
posted on 15/7/11
I never said they were. He was talking about black footballers though wasnt he?
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It was very hard to tell, to be honest. He was rambling quite a bit.
posted on 15/7/11
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I never said they were. He was talking about black footballers though wasnt he?
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It was very hard to tell, to be honest. He was rambling quite a bit.
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Well if he was talking about someone playing up front for United then surely he was talking about footballers - who are athletes. I dont think that it is just a crazy thing to say that black footballers/athletes are on the whole faster than white ones.
If you built a PL fastest team it would be interested to see how many are black and how many white.
posted on 15/7/11
Well if he was talking about someone playing up front for United then surely he was talking about footballers - who are athletes. I dont think that it is just a crazy thing to say that black footballers/athletes are on the whole faster than white ones.
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It is not what you say, it is how you say it.
I am done with this topic now. Time to move on.
posted on 15/7/11
Back to the topic. I think that we have 2 players in Smalling and Jones who can fill the gap at right back if required and I believe Jones could also play left back with Evans also there for cover too.
In fact with the central defence options we have now, it may be that's where Fergie focuses on developing Evans, as a left back.
I was sad to see O'Shea and Wes go but more of an emotional thing really as we do have plenty of cover for them both (Smalling is a better Brown and Jones a better O'Shea). Very good comparisons when you study their build and the way they play.
O'Shea I believe was orginally a Centre back and was adapted to the right back position as well as being able to fill in in midfield if required.
posted on 17/7/11
Some of you are making a fundamental error, one which is the foundation of many racist preconceptions - that is the mixing of the general with the specific.
Because IN GENERAL black people may exhibit certain physical traits which are advantageous in sports, it does not follow that ALL will, or more pertinently, that a specific person would over a specific white person.
The fact that all competitors at a top level have superior physical attributes means that one cannot apply general data to individual cases.
What the original title should have said is simply that "We need a fast guy up front". Statistically, this may mean that there would be more black than white candidates, but that is as far as one can go.
One also needs to factor in Sociological and Cultural factors; more poor (thus more black) people see sport as a viable option for success, at schools black kids good at sport are channelled in this direction and not academical, and many other such factors.