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Giroud and Podolski

Just a genuine question.

How long are you personally giving them before you start asking questions?

because it's going to come to a point where they will need to start finding the net. I won't judge a player based on two games and they both look neat and tidy but ultimately they will be judged on goals at the end of the season. I am not having a dig at the moment as I believe they will gel but the pressure will soon be on if they don't.

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posted on 27/8/12

Cazorla is fine where he is imo, so creative.

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He can still create out wide. See Silva and Mata for examples of that.

posted on 27/8/12

"Against Sunderland he was almost non-existent.

His movement wasn't great against Stoke,it was just decent and nothing more.

Podolski doesn't have the movement of Van Persie or Giroud and doesn't really threaten in behind defences but he will still get goals."

At Sunderland, he was adapting to the CF position. Totally different.

As for the movement bit, I think that's absolute gibberish.

He had much better movement than Giroud. Did you Giroud yesterday? He was totally off it.
He was laboured and barely made any runs.

posted on 27/8/12

He does that anyway but he's most effective plugging those through balls in the middle.

posted on 27/8/12

"Giroud is different; very strong and holds the ball up well, excellent in the air and a very good footballer. The closest match (in terms of style, not ability or attitude) is Ibrahimovic. I'm confident he'll become a massive player for us, and besides, he's devilishly attractive "

You cannot be serious. Giroud looks a good player. But he is no way similar to Ibrahimovic.

By the way, who was expecting RVP to become such a good player last year?
I think you're down playing Podolski's potential.

posted on 27/8/12

You cannot be serious. Giroud looks a good player. But he is no way similar to Ibrahimovic.

Yeah right. Here we go. Giroud is better on the ball.

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posted on 27/8/12

Come on guys... as Wenger said, Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla just did not know each other about a month ago, and it will take more time for them to understand each other.
Also they came from different leagues, had different backgrounds and football cultures and styles... now the team is relying on them to handles all the attacking responsibility; and is this a bit too much?
One speaks French, one speaks German and one speaks Spanish... not sure if they know English well, or they just never able to communicate on the field yet.
Give them some time and then we judge.

posted on 27/8/12

I don't think the problem has not been the interplay. I believe its more the balance up front and style of Pod and Giroud don't quite fit the RVP system.

Pod is a power attacker. He is not instinctual and I haven't seen the 'willpower/desire' to score ala Shearer'. He has been second to the ball. eg He had one glories chance made by Walcott against Sunderland that required him to tap the ball in. It would have hurt because the defender was arriving at the same time to block. He pulled out. There were two/three such chances and Pod just wasn't running into the right spaces for a striker.

Giroud on the other hand has that desire and movement. But he doesn't have the awareness or creating ability of a sole striker in 4-3-3. Wenger has already admitted this and was apparent against Stoke.

And there lies the problem. Either we go with 4-4-2 and Giroud/Theo as a front two, and buy a good all round midfielder like M'Vila to partner Arteta/Wilshere. Cazorla and Pod go to the wings.

or we stay with 4-3-3 and buy a striker more capable of doing the pivot role. Giroud becomes the backup.

The fact that we went after Sahin, an all-round midfield player capable of defending and creating suggests Arsene is looking at 4-4-2.

posted on 27/8/12

Good insight Jenius99

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