You know what has most depressed me about the club in recent times? The fans.
I was listening to the BBC 606 phone in tonight and I heard some idiot ringing up calling Brendan Rodgers and clueless idiot and calling for his head while saying at the same time that FSG should go to Kenny on their knees and give him the job back.
It's been 3 games, including 2 games against 2 of last season's top three, with a brand new system that the players are getting used to whilst being 2 strikers short.
If we were to do this and bring Kenny back then I'll stop supporting LFC for good. I mean it, we have made real progress by appointing a young manager with forward thinking ideas who is going to make is system work, I have complete faith and to sack him would be utterly ridiculous. He has to have at the very least 3 years and we will see the benefits. Replacing him with somebody who will soon turn 62, got us to 8th place last season and wasted so much money on players, an act Brendan has been punished for would be suicide.
Liverpool fans used to be famous for their knowledge and patience, and the atmosphere at Anfield was always celebrated as the best in the land. I don't think we can be proud of either of these anymore and it's heartbreaking.
Rodgers clearly needs the backing and he was obvious in the thinking that he'd be given the backing for a new player on Friday - as bad as that was at the time we need to move on and persevere with Rodgers who will be a fantastic manager for us, of that I have no doubt.
I hope there are other sane fans like me out there keeping the faith.
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posted on 2/9/12
i don't get how you can put all this down to ian ayre? you don't know what goes behind the scenes! as far as i'm concerned, our job as fans is to get behind the team and the manager. BR is the right man for this job. Give him time and he will succeed. yes it disappointing we didn't sign any strikers on deadline day but don't think for one moment that BR isn't either. i'm just glad that everybody seems to see the problem that we have. hopefully FSG will give BR the funds to sort that problem and then we can expect.
posted on 2/9/12
red_man23, Fred, PPD, I don't think FSG do need to answer why we didn't get Dempsey at all. In fact I think that is playing into the hands of the type of fans we're talking about - the ones who have no patience with the manager or owners. It gives them another stick to beat them with.
I was disappointed we got rid of Carroll without a replacement, but there's nothing we can do now until the next transfer window. FSG coming out and giving us reasons won't change that. We forget it, move on, and get behind the team and manager.
I know we all have an emotional tie with the club, but I'm afraid that doesn't matter here. This is business and we're not shareholders. FSG do not need to justify every decision they make whether we like it or not. What we do do with our emotional connection is get behind the team we do have and get behind the manager.
posted on 2/9/12
Fair point FJM,
But it does rankle with me that BR has to face the questions when the situation may not have been an error on his part.
I suppose that's part of the job and he has to bite the bullet if this is the case.
posted on 2/9/12
Fred, I heard that call and to be fair to the fella he said that BR was an idiot for letting AC go without getting a replacement. BR more or less said the same thing himself last week. Ok, he didn't call for himself to be sacked but, given subsequent events, he has by his own admission been proven to be an idiot. I don't agree with the caller but BR has presided over another transfer window fiasco
I find it curious that the blame for the obvious failings of the previous transfer windows have been placed firmly on Kenny but the general concensus is that BR has been let down by the owners for the latest fiasco.
The bottom line is that we have yet again been well and truly shown up as incompetent in the transfer market under FSG. There are obvious failings at the top, as ARE and Shorligtht have been saying for a long time. They need to be resolved by the owners asap.
posted on 2/9/12
There are obvious failings at the top, as ARE and Shorligtht have been saying for a long time. They need to be resolved by the owners asap.
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No, ARE and Shortlight are anti-FSG, they haven't said there are failings at the top at all; they blame FSG for everything.
The problems lies with whoever is supposed to be dealing with our transfer negotiations. John Henry doesn't do this, Ian Ayre does so the responsibility lies with him. FSG aren't football men and they don't need to be. Ian Ayre is the man who should be telling them what transfer funds are needed for what types of players, he should be making sure that business is done properly (no leaks like Dempsey rumours), he should be doing his business early on and not the last day of the window. Once Fulham started playing up as they did a few weeks before transfer deadline day, we should have had other targets in place. In the end we were left with out pant down with no other options. This is not FSG's fault.
posted on 2/9/12
FJM, you've lost me there. They are anti-FSG and FSG are at the top. If there are administrative failings in the organisation they are the responsibility of FSG. Which is what they've been saying
How you can exonerate FSG so easily? The buck stops with them. Our transfer dealings under different managers, since they arrived have been frankly embarrassing. They are the ones whose investment is suffering because of this, and they are in charge, so the responsibility to fix it is theirs. Who else would be responsible for protecting their investment?
posted on 2/9/12
If anybody needs a cheer up then Airplane 2 is on Sky 2.
posted on 2/9/12
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posted on 2/9/12
FJM, you've lost me there. They are anti-FSG and FSG are at the top. If there are administrative failings in the organisation they are the responsibility of FSG. Which is what they've been saying
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No they've been saying that FSG are asset stripping, that they do not have the club's best interest to heart and that they are similar to H & G.
That is not what you're saying which is they need address the issues with the adminstration. There are rumours that Ian Ayre will be replaced after the deadline day fiasco, which means they are dealing with it.
I'm not exonerating them, but neither am I blaming them for everything. They;ve done some good things since coming to the club, they've done some not so good things. There are areas that need to be looked at - Ian Ayre is one of them in my opinion.
FSG are business men, they are not football men. They require people around them, managing the club, advising them. The owners don't get involved in the day to day business such as transfers, they employ people to do that. They set a budget, the scouts and BR identify players and Ian Ayre negotiates deals.
posted on 2/9/12
As PPD has said several times they have instigated a huge clearout of the playing staff which will save millions in wages and left us with very few options. This is akin to asset stripping unless the money saved is ploughed back into the playing staff. Has the sponsor money been invested in the team? I'm far from convinced that they are even trying to act in the best interests of the club, let alone suceeding