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If ever you can see how easy it is to get

an England cap these days, you only have to look at this list of Spurs players who between them managed the sum total of three England caps

Billy Nicholson, Peter Baker. Ron Henry, Les Allen, Terry Dyson, Steve Perryman, Terry Naylor, Paul Miller who between them played 2,569 club games, mostly for Spurs, won Leagues, FA Cups, European Trophies. Four of them played in one of the greatest ever club sides ever produced in this country, and managed just one England cap between them. The modern player it seems only has to be a squad player for one of the big clubs, and is more or less guaranteed anywhere between 40 and 50 caps. As it ever been easier to gain England caps.

posted on 9/10/12

You can be a squad player of an average club that the English manager has a hard on for even though he was sacked from there.

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posted on 9/10/12

Well it's clear to see that if you play for Liverpool it's easy. It's actually a joke that we to average players from mid-table teams to make up our national squad. It's depressing.

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posted on 9/10/12

Sandy,

In the 50's & 60's there were possibly only a couple of internationals at most clubs & these were the star players.

With the expansion of football & "friendlies" caps were awarded to players who were to be honest not international players at all. Nowadays a player only has to have a run of 3-4 games in the PL & he is being elevated to international status.

Look at the England team, how many of the current squad would make a European Select Eleven, let alone a World Select Team? Possibly Joe Hart........................................nobody else is either good enough or consistent enough & yes I include Rooney in that.


posted on 9/10/12

PS: To qualify the Hart bit, I think he would not even be first choice but behind Buffon & Casillas!

posted on 9/10/12

Nugent & Kevin Davies Spring to mind!

posted on 9/10/12

I remember the days when it was big news if a new cap was awarded to a player & you did not get caps for games versus teams like San Marino. These were often classed as "B" Internationals. As were most friendlies!!

That is also the reason why so many players have got nearly 100 caps, so many unimportant friendlies. It would be interesting to see how many caps awarded were for meaningless friendlies, I think we might be surprised & even shocked by the findings.

posted on 9/10/12

Cyril Knowles only ever won 4 England caps, yet Kyle Walker already has 3...................................

Charlie George only played 60 minutes for England, which is a travesty.

Peter Osgood only had 4 caps

Alan Hudson only 2 caps....Ridiculous!!!

Lee Bowyer & Joey Barton both got 1 cap, which is i too many in my book!!

posted on 9/10/12

Just to qualify the caps thing, players do not actually have the number of caps stated. If they say play in a tournament like the Euro's or World Cup then they are awarded only one cap for the tournament irrespective of the number of games they play.

A cap is only awarded if you actually feature in the game as a player, substitutes must actually get on the pitch during the game to qualify.

posted on 9/10/12

Wasn't even Jermaine Jenas capped?

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