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Darn, i wanto to go watch the boxing day test match in Melbourne every 4 years but i can't afford it... does that mean the Flight companies should bring the price down for me

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The BBC report on cost of going to football said prices had risen nearly 12% since last year. How many people on here got a 12% pay rise...in fact how much of any pay rise anyone got hasn't already been eaten up by rising cost of fuel, gas/electric, food etc ?

The clubs need to face reality, we are in recession and just because the players are immune to the effects of this doesn't mean the fans , paying at the gate, are.

If clubs want to remain part of the 'community', they need to engage better with what is happening in those communities otherwise we will all end up (if that's possible) like the Atrenal's, Chelsea's and Man Utds' of this world where the rich flock from far and wide to watch the games while the 'locals' go shopping with their missus's on a Saturday afternoon.

It will change eventually, it has to, but the loss in gate receipts will have to either be made up by larger numbers of fans paying less or players wages being brought back into the realms of reality.

there are a great many "short careers" out there.. the nature of a lot of work is that it can be cut short, or finished completely..

I dont see forces personnel or fire or police etc asking for huge wages just in case their career or life is cut short.. they all , should, be protecting themselves with insurance policies etc but to get any decent cover is a fortune(i know i paid it)..
The premiums I was charged were, pro rata, much much more than professional footballers pay via their association and their returns(massiveley subsidised by the premier/football leagues) were incredible for what they actually paid..
I have said before and re iterate, football is eating itself and will sooner than later be totally reliant on sky money and advertising.
I personally cant wait to watch man utd v man city where the winning team get paid their massive wages and the losers get paid a very basic salary, it will be some "entertainment"...
Can you imagine playing stoke city where the result means them getting their money in full or possibly halved if beaten??
It would be worth the admission prices...however daft they are..
If Rio got paid a basic small salary with large bonuses for actual "appearances" does anyone actually think he would be "injured" as much as he has been???
Granted the first few months of the new "payments" scheme might resemble "rollerball" but it would be a "spectacle" every week at every ground in the country..

Can i remind you all of a previous managers words....

"The Fans want champagne football for beer prices"

wakey..depends where you buy your beer from???

Watching England the other night we got "flat warm beer" for champagne prices..

the whole world seems to be heading for the "pay as you achieve" carry on, other than politicians/bankers and footballers..
Im not against any of the above making a fortune as long as they "achieve" their particular goals.. If they fail then they should get jack sh-t like everyone else..
This idea that all the bankers would leave the uk and go abroad is bollox, if they fail here and leave because they dont get massive bonuses, who abroad is going to take on someone that failed badly????
You would think it might start being the same for footballers???
Lee Clark has taken on Leroy Lita at 20 grand a week after he has failed time and again, there are many other examples.. Id give lita a go but at the lowest money im paying at the club with a bonus for "achieving" something..
Paying Rooney and others massive sums is a "small risk" as you get it back in shirt sales, advertising etc etc.. Paying no marks large sums, again and again is just suicidal..
Gary Neville got it right.. "I was on less than half of what Rooney got and less than a third of what Christian(ronaldo) got, I was ok with that because nobody in Manchester woke up on a Saturday morning and said lets go and watch Gary Neville play"...

Given what the bankers have done to us,I don't know why anyone would want to keep them employed here. Let 'em all beggar off and naff up someone else's economy I say.

You can add the non tax paying multi-nationals that make vast profits by employing people on minimal wages but mysteriously hive off the profits to some off shore head office.

We allow ourselves to be blackmailed and threatened by these leeches, it's about time someone had the b4lls to stand up to them.

(shouldn't get political I know).

Footballers are the same...if they want to beggar off the the States or Japan to earn their bloated salaries, let 'em. Most games are just the same nowadays, it's just the team colours that change otherwise you wouldn't know who was playing who. Championship football is far more entertaining than watching England play , and most of the premier league.

Salary caps can't come soon enough, let the foreigners leave and make clubs bring through home grown players. It's no coincidence England have non naff all since wages were unrestricted..

Look no further than Barnsley and L**ds Utd 38yrs

Last season the took Vaz Te on who was virtually on the football scrapheap, they paid him peanuts and gave him chance, 6 months later he got a move to West Ham and a hefty payrise.

For a example up the road El Hadj Diouf or whatever he's called 5k a week he's on there although i suspect as soon as Ken walks out of the door and the money mad arabs walk in that will change

regionalise the lower leagues..first and foremost..

the stupidity of long journeys and hotel stays borders on the ridiculous, especially now...

asking fans to make hundreds of miles round trips was always daft, now its almost suicidal..

ditch the paint pot trophy..for all the obvious reasons..

no replays in the fa cup..forget the glamour of getting man utd ..the majority of replays are anything but glamorous and cost more than they make..

ground sharing to be looked at seriously for a lot of clubs..
fans would rather the club and its name carry on rather than the ground..

look seriously at the points system..getting a point for a 0-0 away draw is the same as a 4-4 away draw???

lets reward the adventurous and the entertainers..you still have to defend that wont change..there will still be 0-0 draws
but it might change the "tactics" of managers and teams..

rather see town lose 4-3 away from home than 1-0...rather see town draw 2-2 away from home than 0-0..

teams that have the best defences will still have them..because they will adapt..

sick of hearing about clean sheets...especially after very dull matches.. rather town won 3-1 than 1-0....

none of the above is a massive "seed change" they are simple things that will save money and add some "entertainment" to the game. No one is making it "law" to attack from the first minute , home or away, it might just make some of the games more "interesting"... that in turn may get more "bums" on seats...

People are 'wising' up !
(maybe because of t'inter net ?)

Far easier to find things out now, or for things to be revealed , if you are interested enough or bothered.

hence, When it used to be '5 bob' entry fee & a few coppers for a warm drink at half time, most football fans could stomach that, & players still had the best cars, lived in a 'nice' location, golfed in the afternoons.

Suddenly, 2 hours pay, 3 then (for some) 4 hours became the admission fee, it was & is too much, more than a few potential fans have moved on, doing other things...& once the force of habit changes, they don't come back.

to combat this, Youngsters should be given every available opportunity to be regulars at home games at the very least.
AND IT ISN'T HAPPENING.
And make no mistake, They, the young un's are the clubs fans of tomorrow.

We'll take Alan Lee as an example, It could be 'any' player.
He's paid handsomely for what he does. which is not a lot, (certainly by my standards anyway)
Take that young fella or lass who delivers your morning paper/milk/part time shop helper....
€10 to watch TOWN. ! that will be all their money & a subsidy from Mam/Dad.....And they are having none of it in droves,
A Lee couldn't give a 'plop',none of the players could.
And the 'ones' who stay away . Old & young alike, couldn't give a .......... about 'TOWN' either.

Oh, & just to finalise, Wether I'm right or wrong.
NONE of my young nephews & extended families kids actually turn out & watch TOWN ! They all want Town to do well, & look out for their results etc,
I think that says it all really.

Re- The flight to Melbourne Wakey,
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exactly .... ?
the admission to the MCG by the way for a days cricket is an absolute bargain compared to the 20 odd quid for 90 minutes at 'Smithies Owd McAlpines Pharm'...
That aside, come to the WACA too this time
We'll have a