sw6bluez:
And please don't come back with; well he was found not guilty in a court of law. The fact is JT called AF a FBC, he admitted so himself.
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Alright, I haven't been following the JT-AF situation (had my fill of it long ago), and hadn't seen his admission, so I had to look it up. Is this what you're talking about:
Part of his statement was, "Although I'm disappointed with the FA judgment, I accept that the language I used, regardless of the context, is not acceptable on the football field or indeed in any walk of life... As I stated in the criminal case, with the benefit of hindsight my language was clearly not an appropriate reaction to the situation for someone in my position."
If that's the admission you're talking about, I think you're misinterpreting the intention behind those words. It says above that the words had context - this seems to refer to his claim that he was telling AF that he 'never called him ________'/was not directing those words at AF, but was refuting them.
In the second part, he is stating that his apology statement reiterates what he said in court, and that it was a REACTION. If you take his apology statement as saying that he directed those words at AF, then you have to take the above as saying that he said in court that he directed those words at AF - it is clearly not JT's intention to say that, as it would mean he admitted guilt in court, and they still somehow cleared him.
The apology statement above is saying that the words he used should not be used even in the context of defending himself against an accusation of directing those words at somebody - this is consistent with his defense in court.
In other words, it's a club-forced apology by JT, for the purpose of PR, at the expense of himself. So if he's angry at the club, and wants to move to Valencia, it's probably at being forced to apologize for something he maintained in court, should only be taken in a certain context, namely that he was refuting the accusation.
Or was there some other admission of guilt that I missed?
Maybe as a Chelsea fan, I'm very inclined to defend Terry, but his defense was accepted in court (sw6 - if you read the above, you can see why your refutation of the court is not refuted by JT's apology statement), the above was not an admission of directing racially-charged language at someone (instead, it is consistent with his claim that he was refuting being accused of using that language), and a lot of people (Cole, Kalou, Walcott) have come out to say that Terry's been nothing but great to them, and that racism is not consistent with his character.
Interpreting JT's apology
posted on 25/10/12
Did Terrry admit in court to saying to Anton something along the lines of "I never called you a fúcking black "?
Yes, in fact he admitted this straight away, long before it went to court.
If so when did Terry actually say this to Anton ? My understanding was that Anton didn´t hear what Terry said on the field.
During the game, Anton did not hear it, nobody did but SOME of the words were captured on TV and an off duty policeman watching at home made the complaint that was subsequently invesitgated.
So why was Terry having to deny saying something that Anton never even heard in the first place ?
See answer to point 2
posted on 25/10/12
During the game, Anton did not hear it, nobody did but SOME of the words were captured on TV and an off duty policeman watching at home made the complaint that was subsequently invesitgated.
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Ok but where and when did Terry actually say to Anton "I never called you a FBC" ?
posted on 25/10/12
Good article and pretty much my interpretation
posted on 25/10/12
Can anyone answer my question above ?
When and where ?
posted on 25/10/12
JT claims the context he was seen saying 'you FBC' was that the full sentence, which was obscured, was 'I never called you a FBC you f..in kn..head'.
What JT has admitted is that using that language, regardless of context, is unacceptable but still denies that he racially abused Ferdinand.
posted on 25/10/12
The hole in JT's argument is that Anton says he never accused JT of anything. So JT argued that he misinterpreted what Anton had said and thought he was being accused of racism when he wasn't.
That's my understanding of it anyway.
posted on 25/10/12
On the pitch, the clip that was shoen and posted on youtube, its what this whole thing is about.i
posted on 25/10/12
Still nobody has been able to answer my very simple question.
When and where did Terry allegedly say to Anton "I never called you a FBC" ?
Clearly it never happened on the pitch because nobody on the pitch even heard Terry say it in the first place.
posted on 25/10/12
I have answered it twice, what part of my answer do you not understand?
posted on 25/10/12
When and where did Terry allegedly say to Anton "I never called you a FBC" ?
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That's the YouTube video that the case is based around.
John Terry has never denied using the term FBC, just that the context in which he used the term wasn't meant as a racial slur.