YOUR CITY NEEDS YOU !!

Maybe they don't expect it to make a difference but would rather do this than go quietly. However much you agree or disagree you have to admire people for getting up off their sofa and having a go.

comment by LloydX (U6993) posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago

Iwaslevel, seriously? You think you have to live in Derby to know anything about the problem? I think Abu has pointed out that he knows a fair deal as he's spot on that the company must bare the brunt of the blame. News stories about old workers moaning that it's no longer a job for life and wondering what their grandkids would do hit home. It's terrbly sad and desperate, like the state of most of UK's feeble manufacturing industry, but if they'd concentrated on how they'd do the job at a competitive price rather than how they'd do it and keep everyone on full-time maybe there'd have been less cuts required.


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Lloyd - You don't know much about British Manufacturing do you. We may not have the high production rates of the past and quite frankly, we are better off without it, but we have bespoke factories that are the best in the world. Take Bomardier as an example:

They design and make the most advanced trains available. More advanced that Siemens. The specification of the carriage they lost to Seimens included a 'light weight' Bogie. Bomardier have been making it for 10 years with a proven Safety record. Siemens haven't even designed theirs yet, and yet they win the bid. This has got cost over runs written all over it.

The point I am making is that you shouldn't belittle British Manufcaturing because it will stand next to any other in the world. Bomardier used to be BREL in the 80s. That was when they started to introduce Japanese style production methods to streamline processes. I know this because I worked there and chaired a 'quality circle'. High tech machinery was introduced. This was 30 years ago and improvements have continued ever since. You need to change your opinion because it's out of date.

When, oh when, will we get back to the football...

getting sick off hearing about bombardier now! its all i hear! maybe if they ran their company right they would loose contracts leave right and centre!

do it. you know it makes sense.

Yes, roll over and have your belly tickled apathy is what killed this country....

It is simply impossible under procurement law to renege on the criteria set at the outset of the procurement (i.e. by Labour) without opening the Government up to the risk of being sued or restarting the procurement altogether. Both of these would be extremely expensive, and the latter option would set the Thameslink Programme back by some years. In other words don't shoot the messenger!

In additon, in recent times Bombardier do not have a great record when it comes to delivering trains on time. Commuters in London and other cities have had to suffer because of this and it has not gone down to well with the DfT either. Now while this is certainly not the fault of the workforce at Litchurch Lane it can't have helped the Bombardier bid.

Just back from the march - made me proud to a Derbian.

Excellent turnout - 6000+ now we need to continue doing everything to get this contract debacle sorted.

Well done to the Derby and Forest 606ers who went on this march.

comment by TEG (U3639)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
"Race to the bottom"

Sad, sad state of affairs
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comment by ramadan (U7084)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
TEG - Explain what your on about?? Have I missed something?
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Ramadan my comment was in response to Lloyd really. Why shouldn't the working class expect jobs for life with decent pay. The "Race to the bottom" is the fact that it's working class people that constantly have to take cuts in pay and conditions while the profits of the companies remain the same and the ones at the top see their salaries and pensions increase. It's the workers that produce everything for the rich few and get very little for it. Life and society is all wrong. The divide between rich and poor just grows constantly.

RichmondRam you're wrong I'm afraid mate. The government do have power to overturn this decision and use Bombardier instead of Siemens

this hurts but I agree with TEG.

TEG, we may be separated by a footballing ethic, ethos, belief and the A52 (which means I'm right) but we are united in an exasperation of the powers that continue to expect the working class to pay for the criminal excessess of the bankers and investors.*

*This is only temporary until September 17th