Wilshere the master of your downfall?

We've been pants since Diaby injury apart from the last 20 minutes vs West Ham.

If truth be told we have been in decline for years. If it weren't for RvP's goals last season we would have been in a similar (or worse) position last season.

Don't tell me Batmanu that we depending on Diaby?

WWSPD, we were in a worse position last year.

WWSPD, we were in a worse position last year.

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Last season we had 8 more points after 15 games than we do this time.

Arseblog said it yesterday: This season is what last season would have been without Van Persie.

We miss Song more than Van Persie.

TheSkins

Which was my point.

Hard to fathom why some fans are so shocked in regard to our results.

It’s not exactly rocket science to recognise that years of under investment, and invariable tactics are eventually going to adversely effect results.

How many points we had on its own doesnt matter. It has to be taken comparatively to the rest if the league.

You were 2pts behind us after 15 games last season but we had a game in hand (Everton, which we won)

Exactly the same position really - you were essentially 5pts off 4th. The difference this season is there are teams inbetween us - 5 instead of none.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2011-2012/table/2011-12-12

Cheers for the replies guys. Had a genuine interest and as some have mentioned I am unsure of Wilshere's best position. He looks an intelligent footballer, reads the game and passes well - puts Tom Cleverly to shame. But i don't think he's as good as the pundits suggest or they type that can drag a team upwards single handedly...