All English players overrated - discuss...

how can you give bebe a run in the first team with our list of strikers, we cant even play welbeck up front atm

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You cant, so how can anyone say Bebe isnt good enough?

Macheda's had games and he showed glimpses of talent but still isnt good enough.

Bebe has hardly had a chance.

No one is saying he will be world class but maybe he could have been decent.

SAF also needs to decide what to do with Welbeck. I think Welbeck would be better of sold. The manager clearly doesnt want to drop Rooney, and RVP is the first choice striker with Hernandez as back up.

Because Welbeck has more talent in his little toe than clowns like Bebe and Macheda. He's a better player and worth the effort.

It would have only taken about two training sessions to see how horrendous Bebe is. There's no way losers like Bebe will be getting game time if they're not up to it. He will be gone in the Summer and go on to do absolutely nothing elsewhere.

Of course, this is just my opinion. I'd bet all of my possessions on it though.

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You mean how they can see how one footed Valencia is and how superior Nani is and doesnt get ahead of him?

SAF messed up signing him, but should have atleast gave him a run.

Sir Alex will have a plan for him and rates him very highly. Absolutely no chance of Welbeck leaving.

I actually expect Hernandez to leave in the nearer future. He's approaching 25, scores goals and is at the stage of his career where he needs to be playing every week.

If Athletico sell Falcao then I wouldn't be surprised if they came in for him.

Sir Alex will have a plan for him and rates him very highly. Absolutely no chance of Welbeck leaving.

I actually expect Hernandez to leave in the nearer future. He's approaching 25, scores goals and is at the stage of his career where he needs to be playing every week.

If Athletico sell Falcao then I wouldn't be surprised if they came in for him.

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Id rather we kept Hernandez than Welbeck who is another case of a player being over rated.

If Welbeck doesnt improve on his finishing fast then he will no doubt find himself as the 4th choice striker at the club.

Welbeck sorry to say is now overrated too. Did better for England and quite well last season but plays with his back to goal too much and runs across the pitch into daft positions. Against WBA he kept running to where Young was instead of centre forward where he was supposed to be. Feel a little sorry for him though as he needs a run and won't get it barring injuries. He certainly can't play wide !

International level is a joke.

Europe is the real deal and what counts. Lampard and Gerrard were incredible all round footballers for their clubs and did the business consistently. Suggesting that they weren't of genuine top quality is absurd.

The arrival of tiki-taka has distorted how everything is viewed which is a shame.

It's why averages defenders such as Pique are lauded. Carragher, for example, was twice the defender he'll ever be.
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Hear Hear!

The brand of football that Gerrard and Lampard play might not be to your taste but this were titans of the game in their peak.

Gerrard going on to dominate Madrid at the Bernabeu, Lampard dominating Deco and Xavi at the camp nou...those were world class performances.

Of course, Xavi and Iniesta are the nonpareil of this era but don't snigger at others.
Pique, Ramos, even Puyol are not a match on peak JT/Rio/ Carragher.

There is a reason Lampard was a Balon D'or nominee and along with JT was in the world and UEFA team of the year several times over.

International level is only a joke because england are crap!! If we actually won it you wouldn't then be saying it.
Brazil,argentnia,Holland,Spain,Germany,Italy..they are not jokes..dont be so ridiculous. They would all annihilate this united team!!

Gerrard and Lampard were good players but never world class neither is Rooney.
World class midfielders are Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Scholes, Alonso, Makalele.
If anyone thinks English players can be compared to continental players then they are deluded.

Perhaps English clubs are over rated eg

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 13 minutes ago
We are the 4th biggest football club in the world. (Arsenal)

to the OP in a word yes