A lot of people have spoken about the owner's plans for the club and have taken it as it is a plan to get us promoted. If I remember correctly they said it was a plan to get us established in the top tier. If this is correct then we would need to be promoted either this season or next.
For me, to be established you need to have had a good two or three seasons in the league. You would probably say out of the teams that have been promoted in the last few seasons that only WBA and Newcastle (if they stay up) may be considered established and Norwich and Swansea could be on their way to establishing themselves.
It would also seem that AM was the manager they wanted in the Summer but he needed a rest after what happened at Villa. If this was the case then it's not too surprising that we snapped him up when he made himself available.
3 - 5 year plan
posted on 3/1/13
Sutton
You're missing my point I think. I said that O'Driscoll wasn't someone who Forest fans were clamouring for when the new owners came in, so appointing him wasn't "giving the fans what they wanted". Sure, many put a positive spin on it when he was in post, same as some are trying to do the same now McLeish has been put in charge. As with O'Driscoll though, McLeish was NOWHERE NEAR any Forest fan's wishlist for the new boss.
To be accurate, the owners aren't giving the fans what they want, or working to any sort of plan, they are doing a little Jack Horner, sticking their thumbs into the Christmas pie of unemployed managers, and pulling out a prize turkey.
posted on 3/1/13
It was decision that was made knowing the fans and players would be happy with it. He was very popular after being credited by many with keeping us up. And a manager with a reputation for playing the "forest way"
No we weren't clamouring for him. But they knew it would be popular. I've never seen a reaction as positive on twitter to anything I don't think. Not the takeover or a player signing. I was a bit shocked to be honest. But that's how it was.
As I say good PR.
posted on 3/1/13
Has Mcleish also got a reputation for playing the "Forest way"? Or maybe they no longer care what the fans think. Compared to Forest's fans' reaction to McLeish, Chelsea fans were rolling out the red carpet and killing their fattest calf when they got Benitez.
To be honest, I think O'Driscoll would be more suited to Derby's situation than Forest's at the moment based on his track record, but to swap him for McLeish just seems crazy panic. Fair enough, if they had 'Arry or O'Neill lined up, but McLeish?????
posted on 3/1/13
As you say you'll find few forest fans with anything good to say about the McLeish appointment. I wasn't as big a SOD as some but I wouldn't have done this.
Saying that AMs record is good at this level. He has won promotion before. Time will tell. It's gamble he's on a short deal if it doesn't work out. It's far from ideal but it could be worse.
posted on 3/1/13
Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Sutton. You are as big a SOD as any, and I'll fight any man who says otherwise.
posted on 3/1/13
You do spout some rubbish at times vidal. McLeish was not a popular choice but to say it was worse than Chelsea's reaction to Benitez is ridiculous. But maybe that was an attempt at a wind up.
Anyway, the appt of SOD was a popular choice and a good PR move. But he certainly wasnt first choice. I doubt MCLeish was first choice this time round either. At least we have options though. Derby are stuck with Clough aren't they (be that good or bad)?
posted on 3/1/13
I hold my hands up, Caniggia, I have been guilty of mild hyperbole. Strike me down, Lord.
I notice you are not disagreeing that Sutton is a SOD, though.
posted on 3/1/13
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posted on 3/1/13
Probably best if you don't get in to any fights Vidal you come across as a bit of a soft lad.
posted on 4/1/13
Thanks for the advice Sutton, I wasn't planning on getting into any fights anyway, soft as I am, plus it's so futile, violence, isn't it? Your sage words will reinforce my attempts to live my life peacably.