Serious question.

It's not about this or even next season.
There is a far bigger picture.
Bates has created so much negativity, this needs removing, it's such a tough job with so much wrong at ER
So many fans have lost interest
He really destroyed something special

Jonty, totally agree.

Jonty is spot on, but, perhaps he ought to allow them to talk in their own time though as opposed to demanding they respond to questions over twitter and the like. They have barely sttled in and he's spreading his own kind of 'mirth' regarding everything Leeds United.

Perhaps he'd give them a bit of time to get their feet under the table and pack in haranguing the new owners, the manager and anyone else connected with the club. Or at least do it quietly.



RSL, do you think you have a positive or negative effect on these boards...?

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Eric, the truth hurts that's why my opinions are not liked.
I really feel for GFH, I very much doubt they knew what a complete mess the club was in when they amazingly bailed out Bates.
If they don't have money to invest in the team they really are clueless.
However, my opinions are unimportant and should not create any negativity, unfortunately that has happened because the club has been run into the ground.

RSl, agree Bates has destroyed a lot and the fear of course is that whilst he's still around (even in presidential role) it will be hard to move on.

I don't mind if GFH have no money.

I don't mind if Haigh isn't really a Leeds fan.

I just hope they're not in same mould as Bates, at the moment it is very hard to see much difference in teh club.

I think we'll have to wait til summer to see tangible difference, but that might be too late for them the way fan sentiment is turning against them so quickly.

shawn, completely valid point, must be very hard for players, that is why it is so important to have the right manager who can lead them through this. With Warnock spending more time than he should in Cornwall, undermining players in public and mainly concerned with sticking it out until retirement I don't think he's right person for tough situation we're in.

RSL

Sometimes, and I accept its a rarity prone as you are to repeating the same mantra, day in day out, week in week out, you actually come out with a good one...!

Your opinion is not what is not liked, just as the same goes for the Dreary 1, it's not your opinions that grate, it is the constant carping.

I get pilloried for being cheery and positive, had you been here from the beginning you would realise my view is invariably opposite to you and the other dreary, negative posters on here more for my own amusement than anything else.

You cannot help being so dreary, just as Jonty cannot, it's in your makeup.

Folk like Liw swear a lot, others don't. I see it as a tribute when he goes off on one, mainly because I realise he's lost.

Opinions are there to be aired, not kept in a box, it's the repetyition that does our heads in.

Truth has never hurt me.

I think it would be nice for a few fans to actually sit with NW and GFH and actually show them the mess that Bates has created with the fans, some of the most loyal together united fans in football despite everything in our recent history, just 10-20 minutes of their time for them to understand how vitally important this club is to us and the local community as a whole.....maybe the players could see that despite the moaning there is a club here worth playing out their skins for and if the fans see them giving 100% we can forgive them for not being the best player in the world and for making mistakes every now and then...if they just put in a good decent shift we're all behind them....despite Bates demolition job there is still a very good club with a decent set of fans waiting to cheer them on, if only the owners would instead of saying how disappointed they are they'd actually ask us how we feel, if only NW instead of saying players heads are turned he'd actually give them a reason to go out and enjoy every game then they might just maybe want to stay...we can't sell players a long term vision when the manager doesnt have one

shawn, Haigh should know what it means if he's the fan he claims to be, but in principle you;re right and hopefully the meet the fans idea GFH floated actually comes to fruition sooner rather than later.

all of us fans deserve it.....