When will you be happy as a fan?

"You keep telling yourself that, Vidals, if it helps alleviate your shame at manipulating that feeble-minded fkwit into performing for your amusement"

I feel no shame, 666. I believe that you ENJOY performing.

A-hahahahahahahaaaa!!

"I know YOU are, but what am I?!!"

Anyway, I'd love for you to respond in kind but INJECTION ALL MY LIFE! now you're not allowed to

Mostyn

We still have a lot of that. I'm not saying the games perfect. I moan like hell if we have an early kick off. But at the same time I love going down the pub and watching world class players play the game to a great standard on a Sunday.

I'd like Forest to be able to win things to that's really only happened once under a total one off. I'd like a more level playing field. But the point of football clubs is we're all different, we have our levels of support we're from richer or poorer areas of the country. Because of that whatever happens some clubs will be better off than others. You can't change that and I wouldn't want too.

You can't turn back time. You have to take the rough with the smooth. Yes there are things I'd change, there are things I'd have back and things I wouldn't. But on the whole I don't think things are to bad.

I remember when live football was once a season - the FA Cup final.

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Absolutely OOE. On not one but TWO channels.

I can remember the muckabout game beforehand where Daley Thompson and Rod Stewart would play on a shortened pitch and the cameras would follow the coach for hours prior to kick off.

Oh the magic.

and it's a knockout ....

...and nowadays you have the likes of Portsmouth "winning" it

Mind, they also won it when Eddie was watching, in 1939

Mos, I think there's has always been a dark side to the beautiful game: corruption, professionalism, (Leeds), players discarded after injuries, hooligans. Reminds me of that old quote about the two hard men full-backs at Barnsley who used to say in earshot of the oppo forward:

'When tha's finished with him, pass him oe'r to me.'


It never changes. Some things get better, some worse. I remember Clare Balding had a radio programme about sport in the UK and how northern sides turned professional to give them the edge over amateur sides. Her cynical rejoinder was that football had only itself to blame for introducing finances into the game.

I think what's happened now is that things have gone to extremes, but I think you can still find elements of what you miss, that some players appreciate their career esp after having to come up the hard way. Romance. Remember Forest Green Rovers, you went? What a game to watch, it was terrible to listen to. I do agree about television though and maybe less is more.

Football just reflects society, the widening gap between haves & have nots, geographic, and the emphasis on the short-term. But I also feel we play our parts, too, as fans. If you look back to the 60s, and maybe Eddie might remember - no slight on him regarding age, just as one of our older fans - I think that decade was pretty mediocre before we had success. We are going through a mediocre period, building slowly but you hope to something more positive.