Drugs in football

No offense GB, but wiggo could spend the next year preaching his innocence.......it means nothing, pick any cyclist from the last 2 decades and you will hear the same story.
I follow cycling a lot, and have read plenty to suggest there are very good reasons to be cautious about team skys closed door policy when it comes to access.......despite them telling us they would be completely transparant.

It may well be, that what they are doing would not be deemed illegal right now.........as Cyp put it, ''they are just ahead of the curve''..........time will tell, i truly hope im wrong.
I just find it odd that a nation which could barely ride a frickin' bike ten years ago is now super human........and team sky dominate a tour with riders who have been virtual nobodies in previous tours except for the Aussie no less, rogers.

We've talked about this before Cinci and all the evidence - stage times etc - point to Wiggins being clean and yet you repeat a silly smear. What's wrong with considering the evidence rather than the gossip?

Thats fine kevin.......time will tell.

AND i hope you are right.

One thing i would agree with, is that cycling is cleaner now than ever before.
It may even be that Sky's methods are pure, and they are keeping them under wraps like a secret recipe.
But either way, they are doing something other teams are not.

so basically cinci we should just assume all sportsmen and women take drugs and are cheats? fair enough, each to their own but i prefer a less cynical view on life and the adage innocent until proven guilty.

ha, thats not what im saying at all.

I was responding to Cyps slightly tongue in cheek verse about brits being whiter than white.

After watching the poorest tour de france in living memory i wish they would legalise drugs to be honest.

I think maybe team sky are replicating what the British cycling team have been doing for a few years now. That is in part having world class coaches and absolutely incrdible attention to detail in their preperations. After all Sir Chris Hoy has been winning Golds for years with Dave Brailsford the Sky head coach but nobody says he is a possible drugs cheat. I don't think Bradley Wiggins is on anything as he loves the history of the TDF and has a lot of respect for the race. Also cyclists are starting to realise that samples can be stored for future testing. Hopefully this whole Armstrong affair could be a watershed because if sponsors no longer want to be seen in partnership with the cheats the teams wwill have to do something about it. Drug cheats will still get caught year after year but maybe we have seen the end of the attitude wher a big chunk of the peleton is juicing. I agree with you cinci it was a pretty average tour this year, whereas the Vuelta was one of the best in many a year with 2 drugs cheats in the top 3 I think.

It may well be a simple case of all this attention to detail, lets hope so.
I would say that Hoys discipline is very different to the endurance of a 3 week tour though.

youre bonkers Cinci. Usually I can agree with you but this time you is way off piste pal

I agree wholeheartedly with drugs

especially if I can take some tomorrow to blur my view of the match