Those that were calling for the head of Mick McCarthy and wanted him replaced with no regard for who replaced him got their wish.
And Wolves have been going backwards ever since. Level on points with 16th in the Premier League on the day he was sacked and above Wigan. Now here we are with one foot in League One.
Two terrible managerial appointments in Connor and Solbakken have destroyed the club and put us a million miles away from being a club that under McCarthy would have remained either a struggling Premier League club or a team fighting for promotion from the Championship.
Of course those that were pushing for McCarthy to go and were in awe of the words of Solbakken are now protecting their position by saying Solbakken should have been given longer despite the fact he produced no improvement whatsoever in the club. And the same people that said a new manager should be given three years are now writing Saunders off after 7 games.
And those people that said Wolves would not improve until all the McCarthy dross were gone - well there was no Ward or Doyle or Berra or Johnson in the team last night, and did it all get better as a result?
There is not an ounce of doubt that this club would be in a far healthier position if McCarthy was still manager. Lets hope Saunders proves in time to be half as good as him cause that would be a massive step forward from Connor and Solbakken
Well you got what you wanted.....
posted on 21/2/13
Yes i did, because our players had quit.
Just as they quit against WBA.
posted on 21/2/13
DJ, how do you know the players hated TC? You accuse others of making up stories and yet you come out with this classic. I kept reading that the players were all behind TC, but alas he was worse at tactics than his predecessor.
posted on 21/2/13
I dont think they were significantly worse under TC...results were to be expected....we lost to Man City & Arsenal etc but had some reasonable draws. Think we were unbeaten in 4 of the last 6. The damage was done with MMs sacking and the fiasco straight after. We were down with no hope with moral at an all time low. I dont think respect or liking TC was ever relevant
posted on 21/2/13
Simon, I'm afraid results under TC were significantly worse than under MM. Someone else pointed out on another thread that MM got 21 points from 25 games, 0.84 points per game. TC got 4 points from 13 games, 0.31 points per game. But it hardly matters, the damage had been done and morale was shattered, and even if TC had matched MM Wolves would have still gone down with 32 points. Safety was 37 points, and that would have required TC to achieve 16 points from his 13 games.
Morgan and Moxey's everlasting mistake was twofold - not sacking MM earlier, like after the Blackburn game the season before - and then not having a replacement like Alan Curbishley or even Steve Bruce lined up when they did sack him.
posted on 21/2/13
Aries - sadly football does not work like a spreadsheet. McCarthy had got late season improvement every season at the club. Just like Martinez does at Wigan. McCarthy may well have kept Wolves in the top flight and if not then his record would point to him having Wolves as a promotion contender this season.
There is only ever one good reason to sack a manager and that is to bring in someone better to replace him. And no matter what other theories people want to come up with, that has been Wolves downfall in that Connor and Solbakken were both useless and Wolves would have unquestionably been better sticking with McCarthy than appointing either of those two
posted on 21/2/13
Thats all very well, except for the small detail where we were going to appoint someone better, Curbishley and Bruce were both offered the job so we are led to believe.
And for different reasons both fell through because of Morgans stupidity and hard balling.
So with that said, and by using your own theory, the sacking was correct, but Morgan then made a fool of himself.
posted on 22/2/13
Curbishley was offered the job. Whether he would be better after so long out of the game is something we will never know. Bruce was not offered the job because Morgan was concerned that close to 100% of Wolves fans didn't want him.
What you seem to be completely ignoring in this debate cinci is the point of the article. Most of us have moved on from the debate as to what might have kept us in the Premier League. Everyone I know is far more interested in debating what we need to do to keep out of League One.
The point of my article is that we would have been nowhere near this position if McCarthy was still here. We would either still be struggling in the Premier League or be prominent in the Championship. You and your expat mate seem to argue that McCarthy is more to blame for us being where we are than the guy that took us to this level, Solbakken.
Getting rid of Solbakken was a necessity to give someone else the chance to try to save us from relegation. Getting rid of McCarthy is looking more and more stupid by the week given where we are.
Move on a year - the debate about the Premier League ended ages ago. The debate now is about League One thanks to the disastrous appointments of Connor and Solbakken
posted on 23/2/13
comment by Crikey (U17289)
posted 1 day, 5 hours ago
McCarthy had got late season improvement every season at the club. Just like Martinez does at Wigan. McCarthy may well have kept Wolves in the top flight and if not then his record would point to him having Wolves as a promotion contender this season.
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McCarthy didn't get the improvement in 2010-11 and I just think it's too big a risk to take, hoping for or relying on late-season improvements. Wigan's luck will run out one year, maybe this year, and Wolves' luck certainly ran out. The extra effort in improving the squad is something MM should have done better at. With an adequate squad it's quite a bit easier to stay in the PL than to get promoted out of the Championship - you only have to do well for around 30 games as opposed to 46.
Oh well.
posted on 23/2/13
You're right, Crikey, the debate has moved on from the PL now. But.... but.....
posted on 23/2/13
.....but what?