Malaysia ??

So anyone who rates Vettel is a obnoxious moron?

You're quite clearly a reasonable person to have a debate with

WTCBU

more ignorant rubbish with no substance that you just make up as you go along --

who are these people " that have followed F1 that seriously thinks vettel is in the same class as massa "

who are these people who have " watching vettel make mistake after mistake on every lap "

now come on dont run away from me like you normally do when i have you in a corner -
lets see you back up your pig ignorant garbage with some intelligent debating --

now is your chance to act like a man with a backbone and debate with me instead of running away like you normally -
------------- lets see what you have got

welshy

good evening mate -- i have just given WTCBU the chance to debate with me and back up his ignorant rubbish -

as usual he will probably run away from me now his ignorance has been exposed and he has been challenged to back up ignorant fairy tales -
------------ lets see if he has the guts to respond this time --

Martial let us see what his next move is

welshy

seems like WTCBU is running away like he normally does when i expose his ignorant garbage
------- fraid to say running away or insulting people behind the safety of his computer screen is what he does best --

Personally I dont get the for what me seems like over critism of Vettel. I can't see what else he could have done since his debut to impress those who thing otherwise. Of course he still has a long career ahead of him, and maybe opinions will change on either side of the debate.

My gut is that when any sportsmen are very successful they gather a fair bit of unfair critism. There were a fair few who didnt like Steve Davis, Stephen Hendry in snooker for example, but as soon as they dipped people liked them and appreciated then exactly what they did achieve. Maybe it is because one person is stopping their favourite from winning on such a regular basis? Jimmy White fans for example probably got sick of the sight of Hendry

Is Vettel the best on the grid? Not sure - but he's got to be in with a shout.

welshy

you know the score on these types of forums mate , a small minority of people have a childish infatuation with one driver ,

when there favourite driver is continuelly beaten they develop an ignorant bigotry against the driver who is beating there own favourite and make up all sorts of ignorant rubbish against the driver --

Welshy (U1348) You obviously have some sort of chip on your shoulder regarding me and my posts. Keep following me and singling out my comments for your response if it makes you feel better.

The “obnoxious moron” comment was obviously not aimed at anyone that criticises Vettel and you know that very well. It was obviously used to describe that new friend of yours the uber Hamilton hater.

I am not in the slightest bit bothered about someone like you having a grudge against me as you come across as a person that does not seem to have any conscience.

Welshy (U1348) I think I have sussed it. About 3 years ago I probably had an opinion that was different than yours and you have never forgiven me for that offence.

Good.

WTCBU

see you still dont have the guts or the backbone to debate your earlier comments about vettel with me even after i invited you too , instead you prefer to hide behind your computer calling me silly names -

come on stop being a gutless pathetic coward and debate your earlier comments about vettel with me instead of just calling me silly names and running away -