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Why are English players limited

We as a footballing nation have tremendous support from fans and incredible financial backing from FA for the national team but at all levels, we are so one dimensional and lack creativity. We feel we have a strong nation when it comes to players buy are they really that good? Other nations like Spain, Brazil, Argentina and now Germany have bundles of talent coming through but the talent we are producing is not on the same level as those nations. I understand Germany have had a revamp of their system and are now seeing the fruits but other nations have always had better players than us. Why do we lack so much compared to other nations when we have a strong set up?
(admins please multi board)

posted on 18/6/13

Maybe it's time for a Gooneresque 'Pirlo>Xavi' article TRC?

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I would leave that to the Gooners, i don't think i could moderate such an article.

posted on 18/6/13

Macca
Fair enough mate. I did misunderstand your post. Pretty easy to do, as it wasn't very well written.

But you were being dismissive before that, so it was bound to lead down this route.

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 18/6/13

Gooneresque article?


And you still wonder why Dubbed is saying he cannot get into a debate with you guys simply because of your patronising attitude towards him because he is an Arsenal fan. With all due respect you guys need to get off your high horses!

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 18/6/13

Gooneresque article?


And you still wonder why Dubbed is saying he cannot get into a debate with you guys simply because of your patronising attitude towards him because he is an Arsenal fan. With all due respect you guys need to get off your high horses!

posted on 18/6/13

''And you still wonder why Dubbed is saying he cannot get into a debate with you guys simply because of your patronising attitude towards him because he is an Arsenal fan''

I think you'd find certain people's response to Dubbed is not because he is merely an Arsenal fan - though if the cap fits- but because Dubbed has priors; he is a recidivist who only employs one method of debate (and that method is not based on empirical fact or logical reasoning).

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''With all due respect you guys need to get off your high horses!''

I often find those that begin a statement with 'with all due respect'. actually have no respect for their interlocutor.

As for getting of one's 'high horses', perhaps the view up high is infinitely better than it is on the ground?

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 18/6/13

That last sentence just proves what I am saying. It's indeed very difficult to get into a discussion with a Utd fan on this boards without someone using some kind of belittling language if he disagrees with you. If you have a different opinion, it's because you are a childish gooner.

posted on 18/6/13

Wum, you seem a little sensitive.

Anyhow, i don't mind certain Gunners, i consider myself above whamming so i don't get involved in it.

That being said, even the most ardent of Gunners must admit that the notoriety on ja606 that pertains to Gunners is primarily of their own doing.

Dubbed for instance, he is clearly a smart chap. But very regularly, he resorts to hurling juvenile insults at his interlocutor. Dubbed is clearly articulate enough to do without that but he seems to relish such nonsense and such nonsense pervades the entire ja606, particularly the Arsenal board.

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 18/6/13

No, this isn't about being sensitive mate. I have seen Dubbed being patronised for having a contrary opinion here for days and I just felt it's time I stepped in. Am just pointing out something I have see among the mancs and I don't know why you are being so defensive.

posted on 18/6/13

comment by ☺ Wumpatrol - SayItOutLoud (U5046) posted 37 minutes ago
Gooneresque article?


And you still wonder why Dubbed is saying he cannot get into a debate with you guys simply because of your patronising attitude towards him because he is an Arsenal fan. With all due respect you guys need to get off your high horses!

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Jesus wept it was nothing but a bit of banter and not only that, the Arsenal board is like a playground at times. It's why you hardly ever see me on there.

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 18/6/13

Macca
If it was banter then I'll lift my arms and say I overreacted a bit. I just didn't see it as such.

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