To most at this stage it's pretty clear that Wenger is the man ultimately responsible for our transfer inaction this summer. He runs the footballing side of things entirely and that includes what players we sign and how much we are willing to spend on them. Seemingly nobody and nothing.
So why not strip Wenger of his powers at the club? He could be allowed identify what players he wanted (still dangerous, but more autonomy than he'd receive at other clubs), but would have zero input on negotiations.
Surely that's something everyone would want - Wenger giving his almost entire attention to the footballing side of things. There'd probably be only on glitch though - Wenger wouldn't accept this and would probably walk making a lie of the belief that he loves AFC. He doesn't love us like the supporter does. He loves the fact that he has almost complete autonomy and control at the club, that's what he loves. He's taken complete advantage of a laissez-faire absentee owner who probably only sees the value of his investment increasing annually under Wenger.
We desperately need our owner to step up and do something at this stage.
Strip Wenger of his Power
posted on 18/8/13
I think its the same now. Wenger identifies the players and Gazidis and his team go and complete the deals.
The problem seems to be they aren't able to do it! They come back to Wenger and say, oh Real Madrid have put the price up and is Higuain now worth £8m more? Its their f/ckin job but they don't take responsibility. Thats what the reporters were saying in the morning on the sky supplement show. Its all left to Wenger.
What is Wenger going to say? The manager will never take the risk of Higuain getting inured 3 games into the season or failing to adapt.
posted on 18/8/13
Inventor has it I reckon. Gazidis is simply not a football negotiator, and Wenger can't both manage the team and sort out all the transfer dealings. There's no hiding that the most successful and efficient teams this window have been those (Spurs and Man City) with DoFs to identify targets and get the signings done. I reckon Wenger would actually be pretty good in this sort of role, but he'd have to be shunted upstairs and have a new 'head coach' brought in underneath him to manage the day-to-day running of the team.
posted on 18/8/13
Wenger as director of football and a head coach like Klopp would do me. Been saying that for 3 years now if David Dein was not going to be allowed back in the club.
posted on 18/8/13
Wenger as director of football and a head coach like Klopp would do me. Been saying that for 3 years now if David Dein was not going to be allowed back in the club.
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And rightly so. No "Dein" should be allowed or trusted to do our business affairs. An ex-player like Bergkamp could do the job better.
And if you ask me we should get rid of Kroenke and let Usmanov in to get level with the big clubs.
posted on 18/8/13
I think its the same now. Wenger identifies the players and Gazidis and his team go and complete the deals.
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This is correct however the key thing you're missing J99 is that the limits on the fee and wages offered are set by Wenger and this was confirmed by Gazidis this summer, Gazids/Law and co may negotiate the deal but if Wenger doesn't want to spend the money required we won't get the player, Mata, Alonso, Higauin etc are all recent examples of this.
posted on 18/8/13
Gazidis does the detail on negotiations, not Wenger.
So they both can go if they cant sort it out.
posted on 18/8/13
GT, Usmmanov would probably bring Dein back as Dein sided with him rather than Kronke.
posted on 18/8/13
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posted on 18/8/13
How is everyone so sure exactly what role Dein, Gazidis, Wenger, Law etc play/played during the transfer window?
posted on 18/8/13
This is correct however the key thing you're missing J99 is that the limits on the fee and wages offered are set by Wenger and this was confirmed by Gazidis this summer
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Give me link. (you won't find one.) Because it is patently false. I am sure Gazidis consults Wenger. But that is completely different to your suggestion.
Even so I think you fail to see my point above. It is not in Wenger's remit to set values. Thats not how it works in business.
The player belongs to the selling club. So the club eg Real Madrid set the price. Then it is up to Arsenal to decide if that is a fair valuation. But ONLY the CEO can decide if it is affordable. Not Wenger. How can Wenger know how the balance sheet is constructed? Gazdis has to take into account commercial revenue, match day revenue and so on. Or do you think Wenger, is the CEO, CFO, Chief accountant, as well as manager? When does Wenger pick the team? We pay millions to Gazidis. What do he do exactly?