Wenger has been responsible for all transfers the past 5 years

Wenger has been responsible for all transfers the past 5 years
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Do you have some evidence to back that up. Because thats the first I have heard of it.

If wenger is actually responsible for all transfers. What the feck does the board and gazidis actually do?

Might as well get rid if them all and save the money.

Seems they're more interested in just securing the lucrative sponsor deals and watching the money roll in.

The owners worship Wenger. He won't be stripped of anything

So why not strip Wenger of his powers at the club? He could be allowed identify what players he wanted (still dangerous, but more autonomy than he'd receive at other clubs), but would have zero input on negotiations.

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Honestly, would you truly trust Gazidis to handle this, all on his own?

I see no advantage to excluding Wenger from negotiations tbh.

David Dein's powers of attracting players seem to have escalated beyond belief over the last few years, but how crucial was he to us buying the right players?

Nobody really knows.

I know how it used to work. Wenger would identify targets. David Dein, as part owner and board member would go and secure the players. Thats it.

David Dein owned 20% and then 12.5% of the club so when he put forward that we need to spend £20m on players that Wenger wanted to the board, it got done!

Thats how all companies work!

I know how it used to work. Wenger would identify targets. David Dein, as part owner and board member would go and secure the players. Thats it.
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Well that's what I thought but if it were really that simple then what the feck are we doing now?

This Díck Law person, his name gets bandied about a lot, what des he do?!

There's either something seriously wrong at the club or we are just complete amateurs (which in itself is something seriously wrong, but at least it can be fixed).

We need a director of football or someone who can just focus on transfer activity alone. It's the negotiating that Wenger just can't handle! There's no way we can't attract top quality even the likes of Southampton, Cardiff etc.. are bringing in players that can be considered coups for the stature of their respective clubs, so it's nothing to do with attracting players, it's the negotiating that we need someone else trained in this trade to take over.

Spurs have brought that in and providing they keep Bale it would be a really productive summer for them, possibly their greatest!

I think its the same now. Wenger identifies the players and Gazidis and his team go and complete the deals.

The problem seems to be they aren't able to do it! They come back to Wenger and say, oh Real Madrid have put the price up and is Higuain now worth £8m more? Its their f/ckin job but they don't take responsibility. Thats what the reporters were saying in the morning on the sky supplement show. Its all left to Wenger.

What is Wenger going to say? The manager will never take the risk of Higuain getting inured 3 games into the season or failing to adapt.

Inventor has it I reckon. Gazidis is simply not a football negotiator, and Wenger can't both manage the team and sort out all the transfer dealings. There's no hiding that the most successful and efficient teams this window have been those (Spurs and Man City) with DoFs to identify targets and get the signings done. I reckon Wenger would actually be pretty good in this sort of role, but he'd have to be shunted upstairs and have a new 'head coach' brought in underneath him to manage the day-to-day running of the team.

Wenger as director of football and a head coach like Klopp would do me. Been saying that for 3 years now if David Dein was not going to be allowed back in the club.

Wenger as director of football and a head coach like Klopp would do me. Been saying that for 3 years now if David Dein was not going to be allowed back in the club.
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And rightly so. No "Dein" should be allowed or trusted to do our business affairs. An ex-player like Bergkamp could do the job better.

And if you ask me we should get rid of Kroenke and let Usmanov in to get level with the big clubs.

I think its the same now. Wenger identifies the players and Gazidis and his team go and complete the deals.
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This is correct however the key thing you're missing J99 is that the limits on the fee and wages offered are set by Wenger and this was confirmed by Gazidis this summer, Gazids/Law and co may negotiate the deal but if Wenger doesn't want to spend the money required we won't get the player, Mata, Alonso, Higauin etc are all recent examples of this.

Gazidis does the detail on negotiations, not Wenger.

So they both can go if they cant sort it out.

GT, Usmmanov would probably bring Dein back as Dein sided with him rather than Kronke.

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How is everyone so sure exactly what role Dein, Gazidis, Wenger, Law etc play/played during the transfer window?

This is correct however the key thing you're missing J99 is that the limits on the fee and wages offered are set by Wenger and this was confirmed by Gazidis this summer
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Give me link. (you won't find one.) Because it is patently false. I am sure Gazidis consults Wenger. But that is completely different to your suggestion.

Even so I think you fail to see my point above. It is not in Wenger's remit to set values. Thats not how it works in business.

The player belongs to the selling club. So the club eg Real Madrid set the price. Then it is up to Arsenal to decide if that is a fair valuation. But ONLY the CEO can decide if it is affordable. Not Wenger. How can Wenger know how the balance sheet is constructed? Gazdis has to take into account commercial revenue, match day revenue and so on. Or do you think Wenger, is the CEO, CFO, Chief accountant, as well as manager? When does Wenger pick the team? We pay millions to Gazidis. What do he do exactly?