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Fernando torres

Torres scored a really good goal against USA yesterday in a friendly...he came off the subs bench and looked like the torres of old though the pass from barjo valero was a peach....i think we need a creative midfielder who can thread the ball through to torres and other strikers or we should start Josh!!

comment by KDL (U5539)

posted on 5/6/11

I do think that Modric is more than just assists and goals. he keeps the tempo of the side up and dictates play. he also played deeper in a 2 because of VDV. if he played with us in a midfield 3 I think he would contribute more.

there are many other better value players of his type tho

posted on 5/6/11

I'd rather Josh playing regularly than have Modric come in.

posted on 5/6/11

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Pav and Crouch have both scored more goals than Torres this season...

posted on 5/6/11

comment by Stan Laurel Fanclub (U1847)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'd rather Josh playing regularly than have Modric come in.
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I agree, let's give McEachran abchance before buying someone who would keep him out the team short and long term. He didn't win Young Player of the Season for nothing, he's looked ready in the games he's played and he's approaching the same age that Rodwel, McCarthy, Muamba, Jones, Henderson and Wilshere broke into their first teams and they all haven't looked back. I also think that if rotating with Lampard we would see a better Lampard if given more rests. If it doesn't work - buy someone in January. If it does work then we've got a young creative midfielder who will most likely stay there for 10+ years who cost nothing and has wages much less than any midfielders we've been linked with as well as being homegrown

comment by KDL (U5539)

posted on 5/6/11

he's looked ready in the games he's played and he's approaching the same age that Rodwel, McCarthy, Muamba, Jones, Henderson and Wilshere broke into their first teams and they all haven't looked back.

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must say BK I disagree in part. I do think Josh should play a greater role next year but I don't think he is ready to be the stick on starter. he is a couple of years away.

the difference between Josh and all the names youve mentioned is that all of them are/were much more physically advanced than Josh. Rodwell isn;t even a regular for everton, he is in and out the team. I think we just need to give him more time to develop, gradually bringing him into the team. many of the worlds top players, especially in his position didnt become first team stars until 21/22, there is no need to rush him and end up hindering his development.

posted on 5/6/11

I have to agree with KDL.
Even the starts Josh has had have been in a more defensive role so he has virtually nil first team experience in the position of provider.

There may be a good reason why a top manager played him deeper.

posted on 5/6/11

But remember against Zilina he was holding off 6ft5 Ceesay. I know we shouldn't be giving chances ilke that to all our youth players, for instance Kaukta should still be a squad player, but I wouldn't be saying this if I didn't think McEachran was ready. In all the games he's played he's impressed, and while I know he isn't ready to start every game I think rotating him with Lampard would be the best bet.

comment by KDL (U5539)

posted on 5/6/11

I really don't think he has impressed as much as people say. I think he will be an outstanding player but he has seemed out of his depth with england U21s and even in reserve games it sometimes passes him by. Against Newcastle he was knackered after 60 minutes.

His talent isn;t to be doubted but he needs time and I don't think he is ready. I;d actually say Kakuta is better equipped to be starting more games right now than Josh. if he starts 5-10 games next season I'll be happy.

posted on 5/6/11

Remember that he's very young for the U21's, the only other person who's his age is Wickham and he is indeed playing regularly for Ipswich. But in the games he will eventually play the majority of his career at, he's impressed and for me I think it deserves a bigger chance next season. And I would be happy with 15-25 starts assuming there's no major injuries in midfield, it's a big jump but he strikes me as a player who would do well. We'll never know until we take the risk

comment by KDL (U5539)

posted on 5/6/11

Exactly, if he is a bit young still for the u21s then the same applies to our team. I' do believe that if you're good enough then you are old enough. I just don;t think he is good enough... yet!

it's all well and good saying take a risk but we have to think about the lad himself and his future development. When he is ready he will play. His stamina is a mile off at the moment. I'd just be happy if he eventually becomes the top player we all think he will be, Whether that is now or in 4/5 years time doesn't bother me. most players of his type don;t make great impacts until their 20's.

look at players like Thiago Alcantra at Barca. undoubtedly he is going to be a star, but at 2 years older and more physically developed than Josh he is still mostly playing little cameos here and there. Xavi didnt nail down his place until he was 20. a recent example is Nuri Sahin. being played too much at 17 set him back a couple of years, only last year at 21/22 did he hit his stride and become the player everyone knew he could be

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