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Now, this is going to be completely off topic but since there's a few things goings on in sport to do with depression it's got me thinking quite deeply about depression leading to suicide and what peoples views are on it. (Apologies if this is a dark subject for some, simply interested in other views).
I'm a young lad, but 4/5 years ago I was going through a rough time and was constantly down, a few friends knew but not to the degree it was..or certainly felt like. I wouldn't class myself as being 'depressed' only qualified people could do that, but there was a time where suicide was a thought in my head. Looking back now, and thanks to friends and family who never knew the depths of it all, without knowing it I'm fine now, happy as can be.
A few weeks ago though I had a chat with two friends, suicide somehow came up and it got a little heated. I've always had the opinion that anyone who commits suicide must have lost very ounce of self belief and effort to carry on. Everyone has different lengths they can go to, everyone takes a different emotional, tolerant response to every thing in life, your tipping point could be so much further than mine you might not understand, they disagreed and said suicide was a selfish, cowardly act.
Looking back on my own situation I think it's easy to say now 'man up' as such, but when you're in that place near enough nothing and no one can take you out of it.
Without going on anymore, I was curious as to hear what other peoples views on the matter were, and if anyone (I hope not) has ever had any experience in some way or another.
Appreciated.
Depression/Suicide
posted on 26/11/13
I'm proud of all you guys fighting your depression and not being reckless!
As harsh as it sounds and it is a harsh world we live in... You guys are the real heroes!
posted on 26/11/13
I can see where 1man is coming from. I've personally never went through any of this nor have I really seen it happening a side from a family friend (from before I was born) who became self destructive (alcoholism, homeless etc) after a few failed suicide attempts before I was born. We had a falling out and he moved in with his sister in Newcastle (who he never really liked), eventually he just left and was found dead in a field next to Edinburgh hospital after being omitted with renal failure (though there is a chance that he faked his death - but that's another story)
That's as close as I've been. My opinion on it is similar to 1mans though, I would never kill myself. There's no situation I can come up with in which death is a better option than anything. Suicide, to me, includes a degree of giving up. Which I can't, there is no such thing as failure, and to me, killing myself would constitute as failure. I would rather spend years of my life in the worse way possible and battle my way out of it than kill myself.
I understand that my opinion holds little value in terms of experience and such. And I can see that it's uncontrollable and a chemically driven illness. But I think it's similar to what Sterling work said about him not being wired that way. But I'm sure I will happen on circumstances where we'll see if my disposition holds up I guess. You never know.
posted on 26/11/13
comment by 1manontherun ® (U4291)
posted 43 minutes ago
Suicide brave??? Now I have heard it all...
Suicide is reckless, single minded and a easy way out if your problems??
What's harder??? Go through a couple of years dealing with harsh depression whilst putting in the effort to change things round...
Or end it and leave your family and friends to pick up the pieces and let those people deal with tears of depression??
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I'm guessing most cases involve people who are at their wit's end, incapable of rational thoughts like who they will be hurting and suchlike.
posted on 26/11/13
There are also plenty who genuinely believe that the people they are leaving behind would be better off without them.
posted on 26/11/13
My eldest son suffers from depression,its heartbreaking at times as you feel so helpless.
Fortunately he recognised early on that he needed help and has so far managed to control the problem but he'll be heading off to university soon enough,more than likely in the States,which will be a worry with him so far away.
posted on 26/11/13
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
My eldest son suffers from depression,its heartbreaking at times as you feel so helpless.
Fortunately he recognised early on that he needed help and has so far managed to control the problem but he'll be heading off to university soon enough,more than likely in the States,which will be a worry with him so far away.
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in all seriousness you might actually want to research a bit into how good the counselling services there are meant to be
knew someone who struggled, not least because the counselling/guidance service there wasn't that great
posted on 26/11/13
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posted on 26/11/13
This is such an interesting read..
Genuinely never thought so many people have felt the same way i have..
posted on 27/11/13
Completely tied up all day but to come back on this post and see all the comments, thoroughly interesting read.
But my god, Hex, your post is one of the most thought provoking, emotive few paragraphs I'm ever likely to read..thank you.
But thanks to everyone, didn't expect this much response and to be quite honest, I'm shocked by how many have in some way or another experienced or had to deal with it.
posted on 27/11/13
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