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Don't see how suicide could be a cowardly act, must take a lot of bottle to see through if your thinking straight, if not then that's another matter.

Apologies for the typo..corrected now.

That was awkward.

I think you're pretty much spot on with that, its easy to take the view that suicide is a cowardly or selfish. But we will never know or understand someones thought process as they kick the bucket.

About a year ago a guy I went to school with was found hanging in his house, no one could understand it... he was a talented footballer who'd become a youth coach for Nottingham Forest, he was always a really happy guy. Nobody saw it coming, although nobody but him knows what demons were tormenting him up until that moment, but something pushed him over the edge to make that decision.

I don't think its a cowardly decision, I assume it takes a lot of balls to kick the bucket, I personally don't think I'd have it in me

A selfish act in my opinion!

That was my argument with my friends. I said I believed taking your life is the strongest and bravest thing a person could ever do. They still didn't grasp the point I was trying to make though.

It's complicated. I think taking your own life takes a tremendous amount of courage, however it isn't brave. I know they're pretty much mirror synonyms of each other, but I think the idea of taking it to that extreme would be to stop all fear/anxiety you have in your body or your world. To be able to complete the deed in the catalyst moment (taking the pill, pulling the trigger etc.) would take more courage than I can imagine, but the actions behind it is made out of fear and hostility.

I've always had the opinion that anyone who commits suicide must be beaten.
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I know this is a serious article but that had me in stitches

None of us have actually been over that tipping point so we just ddon't know

Many many years ago a mate asked if I wanted to go round to his for a beer, I put him off as I was going out with the misssus.

They found him in his car with a pipe on the exhaust in a lockup garage and 6 empty beer cans.

OMabe if i'd had more time for a mate who needed to talk, I light have had answers for you.

On a side note, have you thought about taking this to the spurs board?

I was in a bit of a shi tty place a few months back where i hated being alone and that and felt sad a good bit of the time..

I wouldnt say i was depressed.. just extremely extremely sad..

Im not perfectly happy now but i can see both sides, i think to leave people with the burden of death is a selfish thing to do when you just need to get help..

like you said the mental aspect of it makes a difference but anyone in the RIGHT frame of mind should think about it seriously..

Funny how the near utopian, egalitarian Scandinavian societies have some of the highest suicide rates in the world. Yet go to places round the world with extremes of deprivation, barely able to survive from day to day, and they manage to soldier on somehow without nearly the same gloom and hopelessness. Not really been in that frame of mind and know nothing about the psyche of a suicidal person but yeah, I'd be tempted to tell any I meet to "man the fack up" and keep things in perspective.

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It really wasn't meant in that way as you can understand


CBB -

Sorry to hear that, but you obviously weren't to know (that makes it no better I understand).

I never thought of death as a real thing..

By that i mean i have never accepted my own mortality, that was until my best mate died recently..

Whole perspective on life has changed since

Whats depression?

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That's what my friends said. Like I said, everyone has different lines and tipping points, myself now..I'd never think about telling any who I thought might even be close to that to man up or anything else, but that's just me.

severe, typically prolonged, feelings of despondency and dejection

A selfish act in my opinion!
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Remember when the German keeper, Robert Enke, committed suicide.My initial emotional reaction was anger watching his wife crying on TV. They were both depressed and had lost a child around the period, ffs. And he had more going for him than she did - even becoming a regular for Germany. I thought it was really selfish of him to shatter her world like that. Why not think of those left behind?

But I'm no shrink I guess.

I'm with the sheriff on this one! Problems can be fixed, depression can be cured, death cannot be reversed!

I also find in the internet age, couple with the shittty economy the word suicide is bandied about too freely. It used to be taboo.

Sheriff..

Unless youve been through it i dont think its possible to give an opinion on it..

Its like an addiction i guess..

When i see a drug addict i just think that it must be easy to come off it.. you just need to stop taking it..

But obviously its not as easy as that..

'Its like you are screaming as loud as you can and no one can hear'

Just, ironically, came across that on twitter.

think im gony walk the plank,phone the polis if im no chattin at 5 am

I can see how some people would see it as an easy way out, but someone who takes their own life (in their eyes) must have no other options I imagine.

Ive thought about it before but would never do it

Its the fear of the unknown that scares me most about it..

the more i read about it the more i think people should try it

too many people are buttoned up the back