Look I totally expect froch will retire in next month or so as he has backed himself into a corner now, he dont want to fight groves again cause he knows he will be killed and he cant fight anyone else because he will be seen as a coward, leaving only one option 'on advice of the doctors and my family ive decided to retire after a wonderful career in which I ruled the world bla bla bla bollx)
So the question I want boxing people to answer is, once he retires and the dust has settled on his career and he is spoke about in years to come, will he be remembered ulitimately as a great warrior, 4 times world champ etc etc, or will he be remembered as a deluded arrogant slugger who was knowhere near as good as he thought he was??
Personally I think this whole groves episode has done irreversible damage to his legacy and it will always be overshadowed now by his stupidity and lack of humility outside the ring UNLESS he grants groves a rematch, beats him properly and then most importanty says the right things after the fight, admitting he was wrong about the first fight, just showing a human side which is what people want to see after a fight!
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posted on 27/11/13
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posted on 27/11/13
Regardless what you think of Froch he will go down as one tough maddafacker. He always delivers entertaining fights.
<b>But<b> he's a tonk. A lying tonk. A delusional tonk. All boxers bar none are delusional, egotists and up themselves. They have to be. It's called self belief in their field. Were Froch to apologise, his mystique which he built around himself will be destroyed. But his delisions are way beyond what other boxers 'suffer' from. To actually claim he has dominated the world SMW division is a blatant lie. To claim he was about to KO Groves is in the Mystic Meg territory. But most other boxers would have said that.
But to claim Groves was disrespectful is ridiculous. And to maintain that lie after the fight is stupid. Most other boxers are humble after fights. Even Duran. But this guy is a Grade A tonk.
He has now boxed himself into a corner. He either has to fight Groves again or retire. Nothing else will satisfy boxing fans. If he fights Groves again, he will lose and lose badly. Groves has gained valuable experience. The only thing he lacked. He knows he can beat Froch and knows he can ko froch. Froch cannot improve. He may come out using the jab more. But Groves slips that and counters him with over the top rights. He will hit him with the right so often that Froch will beg for a left. A left hook will KO Froch in 6.
Boom boom.
posted on 27/11/13
Paisley, he couldn't duck anyone. He signed up for the Super 6 meaning he had to fight those guys.
posted on 27/11/13
I don't remember him ducking anyone prior to the Super 6. This is superfluous anyway. His record shows who he has fought. If he was a ducker he wouldn't have signed.
posted on 27/11/13
He didn't fight anyone of note other than Pascal who was probably weight drained. Not saying he would have ducked the guys he subsequently fought.
posted on 27/11/13
Pascal was not weight drained, and he fought Jermain Taylor in the states.
Better opposition than the most of the other super six opponents
posted on 27/11/13
Pascal went up straight to LHW and was huge at the weight. How he made SMW is anyone's guess.
He fought Taylow and was losing before Taylor did his usual late round gassing. Taylor was blown away by AA in similar circumstances. And AA is not really that good. A decent boxer with a howitzer of a punch.
posted on 27/11/13
Guess you never seen either fight if you can make comments like that.
And it clear that you don't understand the state of play when those fights happened
posted on 27/11/13
Hopkins had JT all over the place in the 12th on both their fights. True or false. AA knocked out JT in the 12th, true or false? To me that would suggest that JT had issues with stamina. I could be wrong, but a boxer who gets KO'd twice in the 12th and nearly KO'd twice more in the 12th in other fights has issues. Then again it is you I'm talking to. The one who reckons loaded gloves are safer than normal ones and that Paq is a better fighter than Floyd.
I saw the Froch Pascal fight on ITV2 (or 4). Great fight with Carl displaying his caveman chin. I also saw Pascal win the lhw title as a huge lhw. I could be wrong in all of these.
posted on 27/11/13
So you didn't see Froch Taylor.
Taylor who beat Hopkins Twice, who is a massive puncher had a great jab, fast and yes he did have stamina issues but still he ended Hopkins 20 defences run.
Do you know what was Pascal ring weight, did he has any signs of being weight drained like how Castillo was when he faced Floyd?
I see you bought into the propaganda, and I thought you were a man who could think for himself