Would it take an embarrassing defeat to Bayern over two legs to finally make the board and the owners realise how inadequate Moyes is for this club? Or do we have to lose more games to the likes of Everton and Newcastle before the season finishes before he's finally shown the axe?
Personally, I think we will end up with more than 10 league defeats that we currently boast & I doubt a single fan can imagine a scenario where we can compete with the finest team European football has to offer right now.
If my prediction is to come to fruition, highly likely, I still fear we will have Dithering Dave in charge come the summer. A summer in which is VITAL to our long term future. A squad overhaul is needed and I am absolutely bricking it, even more so than the prospect of doing my theory test which I have at dinner time today.
I realise the likes of Sir Bobby are not going to crucify him in public, but I hope behind closed doors that they are in serious discussions about our future and speaking about the prospect of a fresh manager.
There may be some good to come of our current plight, Moyes being the sacrificial lamb and all that, and the manager to come in after to turn things around. The only way is up because boy have we fallen a long way down.
I can't wait for this nightmare to end and a dream scenario would be for Moyes to leave and Klopp to become tired of Bayern's domination and lured to the Old Trafford hot seat. We can all dream eh!
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posted on 27/3/14
Dream scenario right now, is having the players show heart and fight.
Baffled by what looks like a lack of confidence, even though Moyes says different.
The squad needs an overhaul no matter whose in charge.
I do believe Moyes is a good man manager, he is highly respected. But the slide can't continue.
Say we're not in Europe next term. Fine.
Maybe this humbling season will be a catalyst and reignite the fire.
For me then, there's no excuses for not challenging for the Title. If by Xmas we are off pace, then the trigger can be pulled.
Obviously love it if he got it right, and I know Most of us would. Think of the money we'd save, not having to go for a World a Class Manager. But if they had to, UTD would break tradition and Spend their way out of it, I mean the likes we ain't seen in One Window.
So as a Club, I'm not concerned for the Future.
But right now is upsetting and embarrassing.
But I can't begrudge anyone's bad feeling towards Moyes cos, well, he chose Fellani, Steve Round, letting Mulestien go, Zaha WTF!? Mata/ Kagawa play where?
From Champions to 7th and not even close.
Just show some fight.
posted on 27/3/14
The 7-0 hammering of Barca, last season, gives everyone a get out if jail free card if they get battered by Bayern.
I really can't see Moyes getting sacked, this season. Which, even though I'm for giving him another season (well, half a season), is a strange situation... If you are failing, you should feel big pressure, not just kick back and wait for next season.
posted on 27/3/14
I think he feels it, he knows we can't be in this position next term. It's amazing that even now, I couldn't tell you what he's trying to do.
I don't even look at his time at Everton, cos there's no way he's employing those negative tactics on us.
So how can our attack become so so slow and lack creativeness? Where's our marauding mids and FBs?
Why does it look like they don't know how to kick and control a ball?
Very very confusing.
posted on 27/3/14
Ji I think you are one of the best posters on the site and always back up your opinions with intelligent reasoning. I can understand why you feel that way but I'm past the point with Moyes. I think he has majorly failed this season.
I'd say at the beginning of the season many fans lowered their usual expectation of a title challenge to a top 4 finish, a good showing in the CL and potentially a FA or League Cup win.
He has done well in the CL bar Olympiakos away, but with this current squad which he has added to, seventh is utter failure there is no getting away from that.
Compare it to Rodgers at Liverpool last season, a season in which he guided them to seventh. He was given the benefit of the doubt because you could see clear as day the changes he was putting in place and despite some poor results in the league, Liverpool were transforming themselves into a more attack minded and possession based team. Even when they lost games, they played much much better than what we have this season.
Moyes has so far failed to implement an attacking style since he has been here and there is little to no evidence to suggest he ever will.
posted on 27/3/14
Stringer. Completely agree. It is mind boggling.
With the players at our disposal we can play good football but we look as if we don't want to
posted on 27/3/14
For the life of me in a results oriented business, I cannot see why people do not want to use results to judge this man.
He has failed at Utd, he cannot hack it at this level and must be sacked.
posted on 27/3/14
I'll give him a chance purely because I think the change from SAF is just completly unprecedented and it is impossible to know if things would have been different under, say, Klopp.
People point to Martinez taking over and having an instant impact... But it's just not a comparison.... 26 years if unparalleled success and total control by one man. Tough act to follow.
posted on 27/3/14
Ji it was a tough ask to follow no doubt about that, but even still, he hasn't produced enough to convince me and many others I'm afraid.
I don't think any manager bar Mourinho would have us in the title race ATM but you can have a logical guess and say that someone like Klopp would have us in and around the top four.
I could take being 7th if there were clear signs in improvement of playing style but if anything it has got worse.
I'm with MUDD on this one. I think if Moyes is allowed to continue we could take years to repair the damage he has inflicted.
posted on 27/3/14
I don't think any manager bar Mourinho would have us in the title race ATM but you can have a logical guess and say that someone like Klopp would have us in and around the top four.
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Mate, do you know why we are not in the title race. It's these games at OT
West Brom
Newcastle
Everton
Spurs
Southampton
Fulham
Surely a decent manager would have taken more than 2 points from those games
posted on 27/3/14
I don't really see long term damage being done.... People cry about him spending money... But his targets have been good... Fabregas, Herrera... Players we need.
He might not work out for us, but he is no mug and will bring in good players.
Fellaini was clearly his last choice and Woodward should have done better... and Mata is a good purchase in the long term.