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England/World Cup - would you be happy

If we won it with via some lucky decisions from the Refs ?

Got to be honest i would, the amount of things that have gone against England over the years it's about time we got some luck.

PS i do not think we can win it, but we can win our group and get to QF at least.

posted on 12/6/14

Four years ago Manuel Neuer said after the England game that he deliberately ACTED as if Lampard's goal had not crossed the line in order to convince the ref.

THAT IS SIMULATION (pretending that something has happened when it hasn't or vice-versa)
THAT IS CHEATING!

posted on 12/6/14

I think in those instances, the ref should just send the player off and give the goal.

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If the goal stands, isn't sending the player off a double punishment?

posted on 12/6/14

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 57 seconds ago
I think in those instances, the ref should just send the player off and give the goal.

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If the goal stands, isn't sending the player off a double punishment?
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Let the other team choose?
Red + Pen
or
Yellow + Goal

posted on 12/6/14

I know which Ghana would have chosen!

posted on 12/6/14

If the goal stands, isn't sending the player off a double punishment?
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yea, but it was Suarez, i'd have put him on a plane to Ghana too, triple punishment

I'm not sure the rules about double punishment... If that had happened after goal line tech, and the ref saw Suarez try it... I would imagine he would get at least a yellow card for trying it?

posted on 12/6/14

* what I mean is... If suarez was stood behind the line and handballed it out....

The goal would be given because of goal line tech... but I think he would get the red card too for the foul.

posted on 12/6/14

so are all fouls cheating then?

posted on 12/6/14

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 36 seconds ago
so are all fouls cheating then?
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Wikipedia says
"Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation."

Breaking of rules eh?

So, in the rules of football are outfield players allowed to handle the ball in any circumstance except a throw in?
The answer is NO
So any handball, by definition is cheating ins't it.

Deception also plays a part, like (for example) felling the ball hit your thigh on the way out of play but still claiming the throw in anyway, that is cheating!

posted on 12/6/14

As per the above definition, footballers cheat all the time. It's only when the advantage gained is very large and goes again that we see these shows of false outrage. Bit hypocritical imo.

posted on 13/6/14

""Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means "

Suarez was punished, he wasn't rewarded

Suarez was about as honest as it gets, he played volleyball in front of a billion people when he was supposed to be playing football. No hiding it.

Dictionary fail.

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