Cleverley

I've watched the game this morning, and kept an eye on clevs second half, he lost the ball a grand total of two times. One of which was a total miss kick, the other time he was fouled. He's not a great player by any stretch, but he's a tidy footballer and a good a squad player.

His finishing is also worse than Welbeck's.

Been the only player who has looked out of sorts on tour.

Thought he could flourish under LvG but I think I may have been wrong in thinking so.

Good as a squad player but if we get that centre mid we all want, I think he may be toast. I can see Everton going for him as Martinez has always been a fan.

Might be worth a flutter him being at Everton or Sunderland in a months time

Kaisers

You may well be right.

"He's just a very negative player, he'll very rarely lose the ball or make a bad pass but he won't create a lot either, just a very average player."

Are we talking about Carrick for the last two seasons here?

Some people seem to have very short memories.

comment by Juan Kerr (U1841)
posted 18 minutes ago
"He's just a very negative player, he'll very rarely lose the ball or make a bad pass but he won't create a lot either, just a very average player."

Are we talking about Carrick for the last two seasons here?

Some people seem to have very short memories.
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But it's a positive when Carrick plays that way

comment by Wonder Man (U11164)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Juan Kerr (U1841)
posted 18 minutes ago
"He's just a very negative player, he'll very rarely lose the ball or make a bad pass but he won't create a lot either, just a very average player."

Are we talking about Carrick for the last two seasons here?

Some people seem to have very short memories.
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But it's a positive when Carrick plays that way
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lol... world class even. Why cant you see the way he justs passes it sideways soo wel.

There was a myth going around for a few seasons that he was 'good in tight spaces'. He's not even good in open spaces for christs' sake!
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This bang on. Couldnt have put that in better words.

I remember debating here with some of our resident idiots over this when Cleverley vs McCarthy came up.
I said I'd happily take McCarthy at United as a squad player if it meant replacing Cleverley. But some people were convinced CLeverley is as good as McCarthy