Looking at the debate transfer debate that has descended about the fees paid I was wondering what ppls opinions were on how much they should have actually paid. I know this is very subjective and other forces were at play i.e clubs really needing to buy and clubs not being too fussed about if they had to sell so in turn inflating the prices....
Anyways below is my thoughts based on what I perceive as market value....
Arsenal
Actual Should have Paid
Mathieu Debuchy £12,000,000 £10m
Alexis Sánchez £35,000,000 £30m
David Ospina £3,000,000 £7m
Danny Welbeck £16,000,000 £20m
Total: £60m £67m
Actual What they should have paid
Ander Herrera £29,000,000 £22m
Luke Shaw £27,000,000 £18m
Marcos Rojo £16,000,000 £16m
Ángel Di María £59,700,000 £45m
Daley Blind £13,800,000 £15m
Total £145 £116m
Your thoughts?
Transfer Values
posted on 9/9/14
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posted on 9/9/14
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by busbysbabies (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
posted 1 minute ago
With 'English tax' the Welbeck fee is about right but without it I'd say he's more £10-12m range. I don't think he's actually done anything to prove that he's worth more.
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That's because you don't actually watch him.
If he was playing for Porto he'd be going for nearer to £30m, he has all the raw attributes.
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so because I have an opinion on him I apparently don't watch him?
Maybe he would (I don't think he would IMO I think that's madness) at Porto but at the end of the day he doesn't get regular playing time in his favoured position at United so he can't fully showcase his talents hence from what I have seen I believe he is a £10m-£12m player.
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I guess we will see. But if you think Welbeck is on par with the likes of McCormack, Borini, Ulloa, Long ect I can't think you have seen too much of him.
I'd say he's worth over £20m because of the sums paid for the likes of Markovic, Lukaku, Lallana, Shaw, Chambers ect.
Arsenal have a steal at £16m, even if he flops he will sell on at £10m+, but I think he will be a hit.
posted on 9/9/14
I guess we will see. But if you think Welbeck is on par with the likes of McCormack, Borini, Ulloa, Long ect I can't think you have seen too much of him.
I'd say he's worth over £20m because of the sums paid for the likes of Markovic, Lukaku, Lallana, Shaw, Chambers ect.
Arsenal have a steal at £16m, even if he flops he will sell on at £10m+, but I think he will be a hit.
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It's a fair point but we're looking at how much I think he's worth based on what I see of him not compared to others and yes I would rate him higher than all of those attackers.
Problem with valuing a player is there are so many other factors besides a player's ability. The relationship between the two clubs, the player's wages, the timing of the deal, the availability of other players I can go on and on. To single out the players ability as the only factor to go by on judging how much he is worth is nigh on impossible there are to many noises that distort the market.
posted on 9/9/14
Welbeck's price is a strange one as you didnt have any real need to sell him with Hernandez also going out the door
posted on 9/9/14
*sorry OP is Arsenal fan - change 'you' to 'United'
posted on 9/9/14
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
posted 8 minutes ago
I guess we will see. But if you think Welbeck is on par with the likes of McCormack, Borini, Ulloa, Long ect I can't think you have seen too much of him.
I'd say he's worth over £20m because of the sums paid for the likes of Markovic, Lukaku, Lallana, Shaw, Chambers ect.
Arsenal have a steal at £16m, even if he flops he will sell on at £10m+, but I think he will be a hit.
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It's a fair point but we're looking at how much I think he's worth based on what I see of him not compared to others and yes I would rate him higher than all of those attackers.
Problem with valuing a player is there are so many other factors besides a player's ability. The relationship between the two clubs, the player's wages, the timing of the deal, the availability of other players I can go on and on. To single out the players ability as the only factor to go by on judging how much he is worth is nigh on impossible there are to many noises that distort the market.
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Very true.
posted on 9/9/14
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
Problem with valuing a player is there are so many other factors besides a player's ability. The relationship between the two clubs, the player's
wages, the timing of the deal, the availability of other players I can go on and on. To single out the players ability as the only factor to go by on judging how much he is worth is nigh on impossible there are to many noises that distort the market.
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Absolutely.
The factor that appeals most about this boy is this equation :
Point to prove + work rate x humbleness
You will find all smashes have a high reading here.
posted on 9/9/14
The sum Arsenal spent adds up to £67M not 60.
posted on 9/9/14
66 even!
posted on 9/9/14
comment by It's Up For Grabs Now (U19972)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Henderson's Backheel (Formally Kelly Is God) (U6983)
Problem with valuing a player is there are so many other factors besides a player's ability. The relationship between the two clubs, the player's
wages, the timing of the deal, the availability of other players I can go on and on. To single out the players ability as the only factor to go by on judging how much he is worth is nigh on impossible there are to many noises that distort the market.
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Absolutely.
The factor that appeals most about this boy is this equation :
Point to prove + work rate x humbleness
You will find all smashes have a high reading here.
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I like the equation and it does work for Welbeck!