With Rangers bringing the likes of Wylde,Ness,Hutton,Perry through when they have had no choice has got me thinking, why can't we do the same?
These youngesters have been given a chance and have played reasonably well, against SPL opposition anyway.
We have brought Forrest through but on Sat why couldn't we have played a LB from the reserves and a striker from the reserves. If Lennon wasn't going to play Sammy or Murphy then one of these youngsters should have got a chance.
If they aren't good enough to play St Johnstone then they won't ever be good enough.
I'm still a bit annoyed we let Carey go to St Mirren, he looked a great prospect, has a cracking left foot and IMO should have had a run in the team.
If Lennon isn't going to play certain players then surely he must actively seek out clubs who want them and when possible give youth a chance.
Anyone agree?
Youth
posted on 23/8/11
its not just about celtic or rangers its also about the future of the national team.
posted on 23/8/11
Are the young players so far behind here? or do we just kill them by not playing them.
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We kill them by not playing them or loaning more of them out and by getting rid of our reserve league.
Mike McGlinchey is a prime example of this. Could have been a cracking player, never got his chance, was left to rot and is playing in New Zealand!
posted on 23/8/11
All valid points H.W. ... BUT!!! it`s one thing us playing the youth you mentioned, and another for them to maintain their place when certain "senior" players return.
posted on 23/8/11
"you look at the England premier teams. Spurs and Man u both had young teams. Everton had a 17 year old on the park on saturday.
Are the young players so far behind here? or do we just kill them by not playing them."
You forgot the third possibility - that what happened in one match in the EPL has absolutely no bearing on how youth players are brought through in Scotland.
posted on 23/8/11
when was the last time celtic brought through a regular scottish international
paul mcstay?
posted on 23/8/11
I would guess McManus or Maloney.
posted on 23/8/11
We need to start ( Celtic more so) brining through youth and getting them compteting for first team places.
I also think we should stop tapping up the rest of the SPL's talented youngsters as the majority are probably not as good as our youngsters, the only main difference is they have more experience.
In saying that though I think Fyvie from the dons looks a cracking prospect and would like to see him in a celtic top more than Scott Brown!
We have some right good young scottish players so the future isn't looking all bad......until you look at Spain, Holland,Italy etc youth teams
posted on 23/8/11
apart from james forrest not much else has happened with celtic youth level for the last 2/3 years. lennon has had the opportunity of late to play twardzek at left back but would rather move other guys out of position. also rangers have had ther hand forced with the young players of late and once all their new players are available/fit these guys will probably dissapear.
i really think scotland should employ a system where teams like celtic rangers etc can have a b team in the lower leagues. would create greater revenues for lower leagues and give our young players competitive game time to develop.
if it works for the likes of barcelona where guys like iniesta and messi played 295 and 177 games for the b team then surely it cant be a bad thing
posted on 23/8/11
Filip Twardzik is not a left back. He is an attacking left winger. They tried him out at left back in pre season but not fair on the lad to play a position he is not used to for the first team. Keatings is injured until near Christmas time. I think Spence would be a good shout for some game time though. Toshney soon as well.
Forrest, Toshney and Towell all played last year. 3 youngsters given some first team experience. I think we should give more time to the youth. When we were 3-1 ahead against Dundee united we could have played a couple of youngsters.
posted on 23/8/11
Lostbhoys, I agree with your sentiment about the B teams, but not your facts about the Barca B team. Messi broke into the first team at the age of 17 so there's no way he would have had time to play 177 games for the B team. According to wikipedia he played 22 times for them and Iniesta played 54 times.