Le Coq

1. agree to disagree
2. change history? wow! u taking this too seriously.
3. even managers who dont stay at the same club can give a chance to young players and many do. dont see ur point
4. player development is much more than giving a player a second chance. with Coq AW did many thing right, he was forced to give him a second chance but that's only one part of it and just because he was he lucky in that respect doesnt mean that he and other coaching staff deserve no credit

no i dont know you but i used my brain. constantly seeking validation tells me that you are not good enough.

constantly seeking validation tells me that you are not good enough.
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You mean replying to a comment with actual evidence?

"Considering no other manager/team (or even a D'Jeezus Mackaroni on football forum) saw anything special in Coq before AW was forced to play him because of the injury crisis, I have no idea what your point is."

So I was meant to let this comment about me pass without proving it wrong?

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2. change history? wow! u taking this too seriously.
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Just telling it how it is. No need to get upset by the truth, mate.

4. player development is much more than giving a player a second chance.
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It is nothing about second chances. It is about making a player good enough for the first team, and then giving him enough chances to prove his worth in the first team.
By stating to the world that he was releasing Coquelin in the summer, Mr Wenger showed that he had given up on Coquelins talent. We all know, injury crisis aside, Coquelins Arsenal career was over, so why shouldn't we say we are lucky Coquelin is in the team showing what we knew was missing for years could be solved.

Wenger bringing Coq back is no different to what happened with Bendtner last season, or Arshavin the season before or probably Podolski next season.

We couldn't find anyone to take them so we used them out of desperation. In fact if not for the beauty of hindsight, you could argue giving Coq such a long contract a few years back was another example of one of Wenger's biggest flaws, the socialist wage structure where mediocre players were given lucrative financial reward without proving themselves adequately and later on not being able to be moved on because of their wage demands.

We got lucky with Coq, but not with Arshavin, Bendtner and probably Podolski whose respective contracts were run down to the last day, where we paid hundreds of thousands for them to do pretty much nothing.

"DJ is a genius at spotting potential but not good enough to be a scout for a football club so he writes on online forums where he knows more than most, luckily for us. he sometimes goes around seeking credit and validation when he gets certain things right and in order to get attention he discredits AW for not spotting Coq's talent like he had done."

Shots fired. Ouch.

Not sure what is 'ouch' about it, already destroyed that notion.

the bottom line is: pretending that Coq failing to get place in the squad over the last couple of seasons and then getting a chance due to injury crisis and then cementing his place in the first team is something out of the ordinary is wrong.

most young talents break into the first team due to injuries/suspensions and many don't prove themselves till later.

I have no idea why some people are so keen to highlight the luck element in Coq's case to discredit AW. for me its completely normal.

No, that is not the abnormality of the situation.

What is not normal is that Wenger had already decided he would release Coquelin from Arsenal. He has explicatively expressed that in interviews.
Coquelin had literally just extended his loan at Charlton, and was far from Wengers plans.

That is not normal progression at a club at all.

The luck element is highlighted because Coquelin had absolutely no future at the club. It is not the normal path of a youngster to the first team at all.

Oh, and classing a player who celebrates his 24th birthday on Wednesday as young is pushing the boundaries a bit isn't it??

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/310774

That about sums it up... Coquelin and Bale

Still, 10/10 for trying.