Despite all the media support including pundits, ex players and so forth, I can't see Jose surviving much past the next 24 hours. And if he does, the writing is surely on the wall by now anyway; results do not lie and these results have been pathetic, they don't look like they're about to improve either.
On his return to Chelsea it was generally recognisied that Jose was among the greatest managers in the game, but he had one flaw in his record, and that was his failure to achieve longevity at a club. He'd never built a dynasty in the form of a Ferguson where success is achieved again and again over many years. Mourinho hasn't spent longer than 3 years at a club, he hasn't shown that he can develop youth and achieve long-term success.
It seems to me now that with this debacle of a season so far, Mourinho currently lies comfortably behind Ferguson in terms of all-time managerial greats as a result of this weakness. I wonder though whether he perhaps might be judged as inferior to other managers such as Wenger too.
Depending on what you value in a manager, I think the stability which Wenger has brought to the club could be viewed as a serious strength of his managerial ability. We all remember Jose's comments about Wenger and know that great teams and managers are primarily judged on how many trophies they win. But if you look at how Arsenal have consistently been near the top of the table and playing in Europe's elite competition for almost two decades now, may you not wonder whether we have been overrating "the special one" and underrating "the specialist in failure"?
Stability, in my view, is a vital quality to have in management, it keeps a team competing and successful not just for a season or two, but for decades. Wenger has made some strange decisions and seemed far too cautious at times but no one can argue that he hasn't provided Arsenal with stability and a platform for future success by managing the new stadium transition, buying and developing youth, etc. Jose, by contrast, comes in, wins trophies, then disappears in a tidal wave of chaos all in the space of a few years. Which managerial style really offers the most to a football club? I'd say Wenger's approach has a lot more going for it than is often acknowledged and Mourinho may have received more credit than he's due to.
Jose a specialist in failure?
posted on 31/10/15
Wenger has not won the title in 12 seasons, has been abysmal in the CL and only saved his ass by a couple of fa cup wins in the last two years...........and to you that is success?
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All of Maureens success has been in the early years at clubs where he has taken over a team someone else put together. He has built on their work and been successful but once those players move on and it becomes more of a team he's built they drop in form and he leaves or gets sacked
posted on 31/10/15
Wenger will be judged a genius in future years. He could have left and won titles at Madrid, bayern, peg with ease.
posted on 31/10/15
that is simply not true.....Ranieri did sign a lot of great players and deserves some credit for sure but he would never have turned Chelsea into title winners........
Mourinho inherited an Inter side that had been shambolic in the CL and took Madris to their first title in six years.......................and he certainly did not inherit a good chelsea team 2nd time round..
posted on 31/10/15
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
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Wenger will be judged a genius in future years. He could have left and won titles at Madrid, bayern, peg with ease.
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posted on 31/10/15
The announcers were questioning the tactics of Jose after Chelsea went ahead. It seemed like they were becoming too careful, instead of trying to put Liverpool away? If this is so, the blame would fall at the feet of the manager.
posted on 31/10/15
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
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Wenger has not won the title in 12 seasons, has been abysmal in the CL and only saved his ass by a couple of fa cup wins in the last two years...........and to you that is success?
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Wenger has either over achieved or achieved what was expected for 20 years at arsenal. Most of which while spending less than pretty much every team in the league. Never has he failed in such an abysmal manner as your Maureen. If you think not winning the league in 12 years with some of the absymal squads we had during that period then you got problems.
Mourinho was expected to win the league with the open cheque book he had when he first joined chelsea. Even amateurs like Avram Grant and Di Matteo managed to win stuff there
Wenger would have been unstoppable at the elite clubs such as Real/Barca/PSG/Bayern
posted on 31/10/15
Godfather
Please enlighten us on what Avram Grant won at Chelsea? You know diddly squat. Wenger has mugged you off for 12 years. Those carp squads you talk about were all under Wenger.Maybe He wets himself when it's time to get the chequebook out cos for every Henry there is a Reyes,Wiltord.
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