over the years there have been sportsman who have captured the imagination, had great careers and who many see as the greatest in their field.
but out of all those, who do you consider overated??
one for me ( and this is a controversial one) was Muhammad Ali.
dont get me wrong, great career, skillful inside the ring and a showman outside of it.
but how good actually was Ali the boxer, as i feel a lot of his legacy came from what he did outside of the ring.
many consider him the greatest sportsman of all time, but look at the stats.
lost 5 of his fights and was taken to the scorecard in 19 of his fights against the likes of Ruddie Lubers, George Chuvalo (twice) Alonso Jordan and Mac Foster to name a few, hardly top class heavyweights.
anyway, my pick, you may agree, you may not.
who is yours?
Overated sportsman
posted on 2/12/15
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
But Iron Giant, suppose your opinion is wrong, because I haven't seen a better one.
And at sometime one will come along.
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Of course Ali is a hall of famer in boxing. And to many he will be the greatest. But to many others, Liston, Foreman, Lewis, Tyson, Marciano, Mayweather Jr. and absolutely LOADS more (not going to type a names list out) are the greatest. There are too many to pick from to say that any one is categorically the best ever.
But Ali enjoys a praise and diefication which other equally deserving boxers do not. In every aspect of being a star heavyweight, Ali had a better with the expection of engaging the media. Foreman had more power, Patterson was faster, Liston had better footwork (unfortunately also some mob ties that would put Tyson's to shame - the less said the better).
Nobody gets the singular praise Ali's flair gave him. No one else gets to have none boxing fans say "they were OBVIOUSLY the greatest ever!:.
And that is what assures that our Cassius is now solidly overrated.
posted on 2/12/15
Maybe the others are just under-rated
posted on 2/12/15
He beat Patterson. Liston and Foreman. And he did it with style and chutzpah unmatched.
posted on 2/12/15
All the best rated F1 drivers and jockeys are overrated as sportsman since the cars and horses do most of the work.
Andy Murray is getting a bit overrated after the Davis Cup triumph.
posted on 2/12/15
Nobody has beaten more heavyweight hall of famers than Ali. Do a top 10 heavyweights list and Ali will have beat 7/8, to say he's over rated is ludicrous.
posted on 2/12/15
Top 20*
posted on 3/12/15
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
He beat Patterson. Liston and Foreman. And he did it with style and chutzpah unmatched.
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He did beat them. But that hasn't got any relevance to Ali being overrated.
Anyone who can say without a shred of doubt or question that Ali was the greatest boxer of all time is biased. Because it's subjective and others have better records than him.
The deification Ali receives makes him overrated, regardless of how good he actually was.
posted on 3/12/15
Why are people getting strung up on others opinions? Seems a really good topic this for people to say why they think x,y and z are overrated and for others to say why not without attacking the poster.
Would like to see some more bits on who you all think is overated and why, and why others may not agree. (and why have we suddenly got stuck on Ali???)
P.s May/Pac is a criminally underrated fight especially for the defensive quality on show (as much as I can't stand the guy gotta respect his skills)
Scholes was a good shout, an absolutley fantastic player in his hey day but deffo overrated especially with the excuses given to him all the time ('Oh he flew in for a tackle there' ' yeah but he's not known for his tackles) etc etc
posted on 3/12/15
It's difficult to compare eras of boxers the same as footballers, Ali probably is the greatest heavyweight of all time though.
There are some brilliant boxers outside of the heavyweight division too though.
posted on 5/12/15
dude,
Ali was a freak of nature. In his prime he was a HW that moved like Rigondeaux. Back then defense was not as refined,unfortunately If he went to mayweather school he would've retired undefeated