Hales/Vince/Ballance/Finn

What's the obsession with picking Buttler he hasn't played a first class game since UAE tour

Maybe dropping Vince, Hales and Ballance at one go is bit too much. But, if you bring back Stokes and Buttler, then you've only really got one new face.

Cook
Hameed
Root
Borthwick
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Buttler
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

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Don't agree with you on Finn, he's just been unlucky.

Test wise agree with you on Hales and Ballance and I too would docua on someone younger.

The problem now is the next four is India away. All should come into the top 6 for Ballance for me.

Focusing on the bigger picture the way I look at is we have 3 or 4 quality young lads in the CC. Why not give them a go and stick with them. Get them in the mix now building up to the next Ashes.

My 11 Not for India for other series not requiring the second spinner:

Cook
Bell-Drummond
Root
Vince (Last chance)
Clarke
Stokes
Bairstow wk
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Squad: Hameed, Buttler wk, Wood, Finn, Ball, All.

Ali not all.

My team v India
Cook
Root
Bell
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Butler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Squad members. Hameed, batty, wood, Finn. (15 players)

comment by Yorkie_116 (U2965)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Don't agree with you on Finn, he's just been unlucky.

Test wise agree with you on Hales and Ballance and I too would docua on someone younger.

The problem now is the next four is India away. All should come into the top 6 for Ballance for me.

Focusing on the bigger picture the way I look at is we have 3 or 4 quality young lads in the CC. Why not give them a go and stick with them. Get them in the mix now building up to the next Ashes.

My 11 Not for India for other series not requiring the second spinner:

Cook
Bell-Drummond
Root
Vince (Last chance)
Clarke
Stokes
Bairstow wk
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Squad: Hameed, Buttler wk, Wood, Finn, Ball, All.
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Why would anyone have Vince ahead of Ballance. Vince has a top score of 42 in 7 tests. and whilst Ballance has been poor against New Zealand, Australia and Pakistan he still has two half centuries in his last 8 tests which both came at vital times ( 61 against Australia in the first test when we were 3 for 43 and 70 against Pakistan in the third test when we were 75/3 and 158/5). Ballance has a proven test record before he lost form and still averages 43 in tests.

I'm not saying Ballance should stay in the side but if one of them deserves another chance it should be Ballance.

Why? I am a Yorkie and was amaze after Ballance got a recall. He'd been out second least effective batsman never mind England's. Balance over achieved at 3 for England and is ineffective against pace which is a concern with the Ashes in the near future.

I am not saying Vince is the answer but seems to be getting out to daft shots. Not necessarily a technical flaw. That is a concern but may be something that can be overcome if he relaxes a bit. I would give him the India tour. You can't bring in too many new lads at the same time so you need to stick with one of Vince Ballance and Hales. For me, Vince may be the one who makes it.

It's also worth using Bairstow as an example here. Many many were hammering him. He has turned it around and is a superb batsman. Maybe Vince needs to go back and come back stronger or maybe just needs another run.

Balance has been lucky to be called up and admits it himself. Check his Yorkshire form this season.

Has the 171 changed anyones mind about hales or is he just a one day player with too many technical issues who gets in the test team because there is no stand out candidate to replace him?