in football in recent times according to Iceland.
Not only would I agree with this but I'd take it a step further and say England have been the most overrated national side of any sport and not just recently either.
We've got to the SF stage of 4 tournaments in history. Two of those were while playing at home, when any half decent team can use that advantage to overachieve.
Both 1990 WC and Euro 96 performances were overrated.
In 1990 we didn't beat any of the traditional big sides, and only won once in under 90 mins, against Egypt!
In 1996 we drew more games than we won. Wales won thrice this year.
The other competition we reached the semis in was Euro 1968 when only 4 teams played in the competition, so we literally started out in the semis. The qualification involved a group of us and the other home nations who we were always significantly better than.
So yeah we are the most overrated national side of any sport, and probably since we entered into international competition.
Can anyone think of a more overrated team?
England the most overrated national side
posted on 7/10/16
Well it doesn't help that players are frightened and scared of playing abroad. We've got "footballers" like Tom Ince who would rather play for Derby County than Inter Milan!
Having players in other countries will develop their understanding of the sport. Different styles of play and different tactics which are useful for international competition.
All we get in 11 players from about 5 different teams who's main players are foreign anyway and add on top of that a dull and old manager, you end up with what we all witnessed. Hodgson was never going to inspire confidence and a winning attitude.
Our players are overrated anyway. We see them week in and week out so grow accustomed to their names and highlights on MOTD without knowing that other nations have similarly talented players except theyre on £60k a week less and not household names.
posted on 7/10/16
comment by Cammy Kerr (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
We've got to the SF stage of 4 tournaments in history. Two of those were while playing at home, when any half decent team can use that advantage to overachieve.
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Absolute nonsense. South Korea weren't decent
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South Korea getting to the semis shows how much of an advantage it can give you. Well that and the referees' bias.
posted on 7/10/16
Boss, I quite agree.
Our players need to go abroad more, new different skills and other cultures. Learn another language. You'd like to think that that in turn would benefit them if they went into coaching as well.
posted on 7/10/16
You'd have to be mental to think we could be even near successful under woy
posted on 7/10/16
OP
Frankly....no
posted on 7/10/16
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Well it doesn't help that players are frightened and scared of playing abroad. We've got "footballers" like Tom Ince who would rather play for Derby County than Inter Milan!
Having players in other countries will develop their understanding of the sport. Different styles of play and different tactics which are useful for international competition.
All we get in 11 players from about 5 different teams who's main players are foreign anyway and add on top of that a dull and old manager, you end up with what we all witnessed. Hodgson was never going to inspire confidence and a winning attitude.
Our players are overrated anyway. We see them week in and week out so grow accustomed to their names and highlights on MOTD without knowing that other nations have similarly talented players except theyre on £60k a week less and not household names.
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He actually picked Hull over Inter but didn't make the grade in the PL hence his move to Derby. Whilst Serie A isn't exactly thriving nowadays, if he couldn't get in ahead of Snodgrass, Brady and Elmohammady back then I suspect he might have struggled at Inter too...
posted on 8/10/16
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon; Football Manager legend. (U20121)
posted 18 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Well it doesn't help that players are frightened and scared of playing abroad. We've got "footballers" like Tom Ince who would rather play for Derby County than Inter Milan!
Having players in other countries will develop their understanding of the sport. Different styles of play and different tactics which are useful for international competition.
All we get in 11 players from about 5 different teams who's main players are foreign anyway and add on top of that a dull and old manager, you end up with what we all witnessed. Hodgson was never going to inspire confidence and a winning attitude.
Our players are overrated anyway. We see them week in and week out so grow accustomed to their names and highlights on MOTD without knowing that other nations have similarly talented players except theyre on £60k a week less and not household names.
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He actually picked Hull over Inter but didn't make the grade in the PL hence his move to Derby. Whilst Serie A isn't exactly thriving nowadays, if he couldn't get in ahead of Snodgrass, Brady and Elmohammady back then I suspect he might have struggled at Inter too...
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100% agree, he plays for us and not Inter because he's crap like a lot of others in the team.
posted on 9/10/16
over rated....we just did Malta 2-0....
posted on 9/10/16
"England the most overrated national side"
As everybody are falling over themselves to say how poor they are, I don't see how that can be.
Being objective: In terms of ratings, England are usually rated between 8 and 12 in FIFA rankings, so getting to QF or SF is on or above par.
posted on 9/10/16
There should be a qualifying cup...