Can England become the No.1 ODI side?

Cricket-fan your talking about the past, i'm talking about the future.

The article states that England have been a poor ODI team but can they change & become a force?

Since begining 2009 our record in ODI is
W L W W W L W W
Beating WI home, losing twice to Oz home and away, beating SA away, beating Banga twice away and home, beating Pakistan home, beating SL home and now beating India home.

Not bad eh hopefor

I would say that kieswetter is an ok player but not a really good addition.???

i thought he is an impact player who gets off to a flier and lets others play at their own pace. which he has done very well in everymatch ,

i thought recent past would always be a good indication of the future!!

dont forget that you have played essentially a second string indian team and 9 of the 11 players who played in the wc finals or semis are not there .

if morgan gets injured who is ur lower order hitter??
we have got yuvraj/raina/dhoni/pathan?
with robin uthappa and tiwary waiting in the wings

India are still better than England and thats a fact! plain and simple. We will win tomorrow if the english climate doesnt get in the damn way!!!!

looking forward to playing you guys in INDIA

Don't agree that Ttott is too slow. He doesn't increase his RR toward the end of the innings, which I'd argue might be done by other players anyway. Might score more singles. He could improve, which is encouraging, but he's our most valuable ODI player, and without him we struggle to get the top 6 still batting after 40 overs.

Trott scoring runs is a massive statistical factor in England winning, and him failing is a big signifier of a defeat. So slow scoring isn't costing us games. And he does score at very different rates depending on the match conditions, so he is not as one paced as some say.

When people criticise Trott, they basically are saying he's not perfect. Which is true. It'd be nice if he could bowl ten overs of high quality legspin as well. But what he does offer is indispensable.

Getting a plausible hitter at six has long been England's problem. And a death bowler. Basically, Andrew Flintoff.

Well said Mildred - I'm really looking forward to the away fixture in India

They CWC should have taught England that a different kind of team is more likely to be successful in India/SL. They began to address this with the selection of Dernbach. Shahzad might come back. Meaker is worth looking at.

We could do with an A team tour of Asian countries to look at emerging talent, and conditions. We needed this before the WC.

And an attack of tall fast bowlers hitting short of a length isn't going to work. And we need spinning options.

For the winter, how about:
Kieswetter/Cook/Trott/Pietersen/Morgan/Stokes/
Patel/Broad/Swann/Borthwick/Dernbach.
Reserves: Bopara/Buttler/Bresnan/Shahzad or Meaker.

When they are all fit. Slokes is only in if he bowls.

Anyway, winning at home and being competitive away, isn't bad. Especially as ODI cricket isn't valued here. It feels like England get kicked around when they lose ODIs, but no one really cares when they win.

I've only seen Stokes play since he got picked for England but apart from being left handed I don't see him as better than Woakes. Woakes is a beautiful clean ball striker and a genuine bowler, he's well on the way to batting as an all rounder.

I've only seen Woakes playing for England, so not at all with a red ball. His batting looks pretty useful for a number seven. But we have a lot a better bowlers than him, surely? Though his stats are great for Warks. Is he someone who could do well in India? He's not a slingy, skiddy reverse swinger. He's a bit quicker than medium. He reminds me stylistically of Liam Plunkett.

Stokes and Borthwick are speculative picks. I've said on an another post about inexperienced players taking a long time to find their feet at international level for England. Yet the alternatives (go back to Wright, Tredwell) don't feel ideal either. Which is why Lions tours are useful.