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Lets wake up 606 with a Debate

Its been a bit quiet on here for the last few weeks. Maybe its the world cup taking away the interest....who knows?

But lets try and get some interest and a nice healthy debate of views...

Darren Wassall has been in charge of the academy for around 9 years approx. In that time the club has and continues to invest £M's intothe academy but in that time with Wassall what has the academy delivered?
Do you all think Wassall hs done well? Is the Academy a success?

My view is that apart from Hughes I don't think the academy has produced much under Wassall's watc. I don't think there are many quality players knocking on the 1st team that has been produced from Moor Farm. Wassall is too comfortable at Derby and should be sent packing but Frank has to keep him on.

Bennett and Hanson have both come through and I don't think they are good enough to be 1st team players.

I'd like to hear what you lot think.

posted on 5/7/18

Of more interest is why did View only post his England thread on the doggy board?

posted on 5/7/18

I’m sure Jody Morris will be casting his eye over the youth teams and indeed Wassall. Seems he is safe for now.

Bit of a mess at the minute, press stating Thomas flying home for West Ham talks, Derby deny it. Press reports deal agreed with Cardiff for Bryson, club deny it, Runours that Leeds’ Vydra deal to be done in instalments with a paltry up front payment.
Why do we always allow ourselves to be fleeced in the transfer market? Although I think the Weimann deal is a good one considering he has hardly been prolific and in my opinion is no striker.

posted on 5/7/18

comment by Bunk Moreland (U20074)
posted 40 minutes ago
We had another young player leave us this week, lad got offered contracts from Leipzig, and a couple of prem clubs.

We have another 3/4 that we are hopeful for coming through, one striker in particular who been going well for England u17.

I don’t know why we seem to produce more higher quality players, I think you actually have a higher status academy than us, so it is strange.

Interesting to see if Lampard addresses this, or will he give Chelsea youth priority
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Indeed Bunk, Forest have certainly made the most of their youth system considering (correct me if I am wrong) it is not an elite rated set up. Managed to sell some fairly average youth players for big fees yet we are touting he leagues top scorer out for a years subricption to playboy and a pokey bum vvank!

posted on 5/7/18

I'm fine with giving youth a chance if they are good enough, with the exception of Elsnik and Thomas though who has had a successful loan period with a lower league club?

How Hanson and Bennett are still at the club is beyond me, nowhere near good enough

Wassall should go to IMO

comment by Rameses (U7190)

posted on 5/7/18

Pokey bum vvank?

Must be a Navy thing.

posted on 5/7/18

Who has had a successful loan period with a lower league club?

Callum Guy

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2018/07/guy-determined-to-be-ready-for-a-big-season

posted on 5/7/18

It depends on what you deem a success. United have produced a lot of players that have gone on to play in the top three leagues in the nation. One of the most in Europe to do so. This is one way, that those that don't make it, bring in a stream of revenue.

So, success should be seen by not only producing players for the first team but also how many you sell and go on to play to a decent level.

posted on 5/7/18

How many Derbyshire born players have come thro the academy in the last 10 years?
If we aren’t going to develop local lads and just sign 16 or 17 year olds from other academy’s why is the club paying £ms each year to get the academy running.
There is talent in Derbyshire 2 of the current England World Cup squad prove that.
My dad took my nephew out of the academy because he wasn’t getting quality coaching and development. Because as the coaches said the club will always buy a better lad from another club

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 6/7/18

Something that can happen in "elite" academies (not just in football), is that the young people who they are there to be nurtured become secondary to the staff having a nice steady (but hi-profile) job.

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