If CHO goes?

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 14 minutes ago
 also think there’s a tendency among fans to overhype their youngsters, especially at a time when senior players are struggling for form. How often do you hear fans say “just chuck in the youngsters”? 
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Sorry Darren but I don't really agree with that either.

In our case with regards to Willian and Pedro they haven't been consistently good for a long time now (I'd even argue Pedro never has been for us), so why wouldn't you throw in a youngster in to see if he can do better?

I don't see it as over hyping a player but just the obvious move rather than wait ad infinitum to see if an under performing player will regain form with consistency when performances suggest it might be a rather long wait.
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I'd have to disagree re Pedro Brum...on his day he's as pleasing to watch as pretty much anyone in the Prem
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I can say the same about William. Trouble is, for both players, those days are increasingly few and far between.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 14 minutes ago
 also think there’s a tendency among fans to overhype their youngsters, especially at a time when senior players are struggling for form. How often do you hear fans say “just chuck in the youngsters”? 
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Sorry Darren but I don't really agree with that either.

In our case with regards to Willian and Pedro they haven't been consistently good for a long time now (I'd even argue Pedro never has been for us), so why wouldn't you throw in a youngster in to see if he can do better?

I don't see it as over hyping a player but just the obvious move rather than wait ad infinitum to see if an under performing player will regain form with consistency when performances suggest it might be a rather long wait.
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I'd have to disagree re Pedro Brum...on his day he's as pleasing to watch as pretty much anyone in the Prem
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I can say the same about William. Trouble is, for both players, those days are increasingly few and far between.
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Absolutely Biggish and I share the same opinion on Willy as I do Pedro.

On their day they can be match winners but how often does that day come around. We can't afford to accommodate players who's day comes around so infrequently whilst our competitors have players that are on their game every week.

I just don't see it as hype just sensible use of resources!

The obvious difference in having CHO in the team is that he actually looks to whip in crosses, early into the danger area. This is something neither Pedro, William or our full backs can do. So, whilst I maintain my concerns about him defensively, CHO offers us something different to our very predictable attack.

And that's why I want to see him start regularly over Willian and Pedro Biggish, not because he's come from our youth team.

Even if he's only on par with them, he's going to be gaining match experience to make him a better player game by game.

If we had players such as Man City have in front of him, I would be more than happy with the game time he's getting but unfortunately we don't.

I don't feel easy talking like that about players that have given us some great moments but they're amongst some of the players that are affecting the team now and time doesn't stand still for any man.

My understanding is that CHO prefers to play on the left, but when he does that he tends to cut into the right because of his weaker left foot. Therefore, I think for now at least we will only play him on the right.

I have noticed that about him.

When on the right he gets a yard on the outside of his man and whips a cross in, yet when he's on the left he does what Willian tends to do and cut back on the inside and looks to get a shot in on goal.

However he does look better at it than any of our other wide players except Hazard.

Yep

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 14 minutes ago
 also think there’s a tendency among fans to overhype their youngsters, especially at a time when senior players are struggling for form. How often do you hear fans say “just chuck in the youngsters”? 
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Sorry Darren but I don't really agree with that either.

In our case with regards to Willian and Pedro they haven't been consistently good for a long time now (I'd even argue Pedro never has been for us), so why wouldn't you throw in a youngster in to see if he can do better?

I don't see it as over hyping a player but just the obvious move rather than wait ad infinitum to see if an under performing player will regain form with consistency when performances suggest it might be a rather long wait.
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I'd have to disagree re Pedro Brum...on his day he's as pleasing to watch as pretty much anyone in the Prem
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I can say the same about William. Trouble is, for both players, those days are increasingly few and far between.
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Absolutely Biggish and I share the same opinion on Willy as I do Pedro.

On their day they can be match winners but how often does that day come around. We can't afford to accommodate players who's day comes around so infrequently whilst our competitors have players that are on their game every week.

I just don't see it as hype just sensible use of resources!
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Today is a perfect example neither Willian or Pedro did anything to repay the faith showed in them yet again.

WTF have Quaresma, Paim, Pato got to do with it?
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I wondered that...has he got onto the wrong thread or something.
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Three players who were better at youth level than CHO (by some distance tbh), which is the only basis we accurately have to judge him on thus far, who by the time they'd reached early/mid 20's had failed so badly they collected 3 or 4 Chelsea appearances between them. Giving first hand examples of the point I was making in the original post.

Though I do like the guy who said the biggest person to blame is Jardon Sancho. SO SO true

Love how no-one seems to be considering the possibility that whether he stays or goes, maybe he won't become all that? Which makes me blame the structure of the club more than anything else.

I've never seen a young player pumped up so much on so little pro-level evidence, Chelsea or anywhere else, and it's not because of CHO - he's decent, but there's been far superior at youth level to bomb hard at pro-level threw the course of history (we've bought a number of them down the years, e.g. Quaresma, Paim, Pato, etc...). It's because of the culture of the club that makes it an appealing story to journalists and a source of anxiety to the fanbase.

So yeah, the third thing
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Spot on post.,

Although my gut tells me he will be a success.

My gut has been wrong before though.
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My gut tells me he'll be OK. Will turn out like Willian, very direct (will compliment counter attacking setups), dependable with flashes of excellence but won't become anything special.

But I'm nearly always wrong. I thought the likes of Quaresma & Pato would be battling for the Ballon D'or by now