we lost that game by 5. How we managed to win it, is completely baffling.
Honestly, disgraceful performance. Defensively, disgraceful. From an attacking viewpoint, just no creativity whatsoever.
Seriously as a team, that is one of the worst defensive performances I can remember. So easy to play through, time and time again, they had acres of space on our rightside. AWB out of position, Greenwood not helping at all, Lindeloaf and Magdire doing their usual trash. No idea what Shaw was doing half the game. Pogba is ridiculously lazy, absolutely pathetic.
Biggest robbery you'll see this season that.
Would have had few complaints had
posted on 26/9/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
That was often the case under LVG and Mourinho as well. An unbalanced squad, with inconsistent players and management that isn’t the best (or suited to the squad in many cases) is going to lead to what we’ve seen since Fergie retired.
With regard to the squad it’s more than just depth. There are fundamental flaws with many of the players regularly starting for Manchester United.
That’ll still be the case whether Klopp, Pep or Fergie was managing the team.
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Yeah a lot of what you say I agree with.
I do however think the focus sometimes is on the wrong players, but that's a discussion for another day.
We just seem to be playing like frightened rabbits. Every defensive tackle or attempt looks panicky and uncertain. Our passes from mf are pressured and hence imo doing find their target. We need a sense of assuredness and an arrogance that I believe is a management issue
posted on 26/9/20
I think with Pogba, he's clearly not up to fitness following the Covid contraction. It would make more sense to play him in the league cup games than the league ones at this time. I hope he starts in midweek
posted on 26/9/20
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 3 minutes ago
Terrible performance. But yet again, when we were holding on to a one goal lead, Ole made there defensive substitutions and yet again, we lost the lead. The statistics on how often that has happened don't make pretty reading. But he's never going to learn in that regard
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and the odd thing is that under jose, when everyone complained that we would take the lead, drop off, and look knackered all the time, we almost never gave away a lead.
jose in!
posted on 26/9/20
We’ve scrambled a win and very lucky to do so, hopefully it won’t detract from the fact at times we were awful and a lot of work needs to done, Martial is still way of the pace, positives Matic and Rashford,
posted on 26/9/20
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
Terrible performance. But yet again, when we were holding on to a one goal lead, Ole made there defensive substitutions and yet again, we lost the lead. The statistics on how often that has happened don't make pretty reading. But he's never going to learn in that regard
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That's because it is what seems the right thing to do. It drives me mad, but even Fergie did it. Tell me the managers who don't? England managers without exception have done it.
It just seems counter intuitive to bring an attacker or midfielder on when you are hanging on to lead.
posted on 26/9/20
comment by Wiilie morgan broke my ankle (U12809)
posted 32 seconds ago
We’ve scrambled a win and very lucky to do so, hopefully it won’t detract from the fact at times we were awful and a lot of work needs to done, Martial is still way of the pace, positives Matic and Rashford,
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Thought matic was our motm tbf
Rashford scored an excellent goal but thought he was poor bar that
posted on 26/9/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
Terrible performance. But yet again, when we were holding on to a one goal lead, Ole made there defensive substitutions and yet again, we lost the lead. The statistics on how often that has happened don't make pretty reading. But he's never going to learn in that regard
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That's because it is what seems the right thing to do. It drives me mad, but even Fergie did it. Tell me the managers who don't? England managers without exception have done it.
It just seems counter intuitive to bring an attacker or midfielder on when you are hanging on to lead.
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It seems even more counterintuitive to bring on defensive players time and again when it sees you lose the lead time and again. Even bringing on like for like would be okay.
But when you leave yourself with less and less outlets, it just gets the opposition's tails up and allows them to throw everything forward, knowing that there's no threat on the counter attack. And it's for that reason that throwing on more and more defensive players isn't the right strategy. Something repeatedly proven in the concession of goals. He should have learned this by now, but hasn't
posted on 26/9/20
Jinja, yeah I definitely agree with that. Even when we battered Brighton, for example, I was more impressed by the way they moved the ball and moved off the ball than we did. It’s a flaw that results and individual performances can paper over, but it still remains a flaw.
But there are certain players, with certain flaws, that will still limit the way we play.
posted on 26/9/20
To be fair last season we had many games like that we battered the opposition and failed to win. Must have been over 15 games last season we failed to win when we deserved to win by 2 or more goals. Glad to see us get on the end of 1 the other way.
Also someone needs to tell Rashford how to stay onside as he cost us 2 goals today due to that. Both times he could have been onside and we would have scored.
posted on 26/9/20
This game sort of reminded me of Sevilla Man Utd game, Sevilla created very few chances but scored pretty much everything while the opposition kept getting amazing opportunities and not scoring although even then we missed a lot more against Sevilla then Brighton did today which shows how wasteful we were that game.