I have just watched the exciting game between Leeds and Fulham (was nice to actually enjoy watching football). Watching Leeds play was like watching the early Poch days, when we played fast attacking football and worked relentlessly for each other, as a team .
I was really impressed with Leeds, there was always an option to move forward, there was no strops if a player didn’t get the ball, they all sprinted backwards as well as forwards. Their fitness is unbelievable.
I think they all deserve high praise, but I was very impressed with 3 players. Ayling, Meslier and Harrison. Ayling was everywhere, solid in defence and quick to release the ball and support attacks. Harrison was very direct, two footed, creative, rarely lost the ball and helped out in defence. Messier, although he didn’t have much to do, was always alert, couple of quick reaction saves, good distribution and a very calm head for one so young.
It would say all 3 would improve us, especially if we were to lose Lloris and Son. Saying that, I would be pointless them signing for us if that clueless idiot is still in charge.
Reminiscing
posted on 20/3/21
Yea agree. Its a shet show really and hard to see how drag ourselves into a new phase to be honest. Depressing.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting some young players from less teams, could easily work out.
I agree with the premise of the article but Ayling especially isn't great at all imo.
Leeds are the opposite to spurs in the way they have few great players but are well coached and drilled with a clear way of playing in every game, rather than worrying about the opposition too much like Jose does.
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Take it you would sooner be in Leeds position then, 11th with six less points. Playing pretty football doesn`t mean getting more points, and that is the whole idea of a league, it is a points based competition. Plenty of boring sides throughout history have won the league.
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I'm literally saying that our better players, if better coached, would be in a lot better position than we are.
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You cannot coach poor players to be better.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by Jose’sNoSpur (U22473)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
OP
Not being funny, but if all these Leeds players are so good, how come they are six points behind Spurs, having played more games, and with a minus 2 goal difference?
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They are in their first season in the top flight. Surely we would be a lot better off points wise if we were far more superior.
Football is an entertainment game, so what’s the point of football if it’s not entertaining. At the moment, I would rather be in Leeds position, playing exciting football with clear direction, instead of the shiite show we are having to endure.
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What clear direction, they could be relegated next season. The same nonsense was said about Sheffield United last season. Progressive team, under a good manager, and look where they are this season. Absolutely nothing to say Leeds will progress next season, they have just as much chance as going backwards.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN (U20037)
posted 38 minutes ago
Poch had a 56% win percentage over 5 years, Mou has 46% in 1 and a half years.
It's not even an argument to be had regarding the two managers, anyone suggesting otherwise is on the wum with a weird agenda against our best PL era manager.
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He still won nothing, and had a next to shocking cup record in most cup competitions, including Europe, where other than one freak run to the final, he had a very poor record.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN (U20037)
posted 39 minutes ago
Poch had a 56% win percentage over 5 years, Mou has 46% in 1 and a half years.
It's not even an argument to be had regarding the two managers, anyone suggesting otherwise is on the wum with a weird agenda against our best PL era manager.
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Jose should be given five years, then can be compared with the previous manager. You may as well compare Poch`s first five years with Billy Nicholson`s first five years if you want a proper comparison.
posted on 20/3/21
Also, I keep seeing some of you folks bang on about how bad it was with Poch near the end. In his last full season he dragged us to a 4th place finish and a champions league final, not to mention a semi in the league cup! Imagine the heartache or fighting to get to the champions league final and then have a terrible penalty decision go against you so early. Imagine how deflating that would be. Poch knew that some of the players would never get over that, hence why he wanted to build a new team, he may have needed it to lift himself as well. No wonder it was very average the year after. Unfortunately, Levy is not a football man, otherwise he would have seen this.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting some young players from less teams, could easily work out.
I agree with the premise of the article but Ayling especially isn't great at all imo.
Leeds are the opposite to spurs in the way they have few great players but are well coached and drilled with a clear way of playing in every game, rather than worrying about the opposition too much like Jose does.
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Take it you would sooner be in Leeds position then, 11th with six less points. Playing pretty football doesn`t mean getting more points, and that is the whole idea of a league, it is a points based competition. Plenty of boring sides throughout history have won the league.
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I'm literally saying that our better players, if better coached, would be in a lot better position than we are.
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You cannot coach poor players to be better.
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Totally wrong, all players can be improved by good coaching.
posted on 20/3/21
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 39 minutes ago
Poch had a 56% win percentage over 5 years, Mou has 46% in 1 and a half years.
It's not even an argument to be had regarding the two managers, anyone suggesting otherwise is on the wum with a weird agenda against our best PL era manager.
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Jose should be given five years, then can be compared with the previous manager. You may as well compare Poch`s first five years with Billy Nicholson`s first five years if you want a proper comparison.
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Why are you comparing Poch and Bill, it’s totally irrelevant, modern football is totally different from the football of the 60’s.
Poch, as a coach is far superior to the current day Mourinho, and if you gave Jose four more years at this club, the evidence is pointing to a pretty severe demise
posted on 20/3/21
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting some young players from less teams, could easily work out.
I agree with the premise of the article but Ayling especially isn't great at all imo.
Leeds are the opposite to spurs in the way they have few great players but are well coached and drilled with a clear way of playing in every game, rather than worrying about the opposition too much like Jose does.
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Take it you would sooner be in Leeds position then, 11th with six less points. Playing pretty football doesn`t mean getting more points, and that is the whole idea of a league, it is a points based competition. Plenty of boring sides throughout history have won the league.
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I'm literally saying that our better players, if better coached, would be in a lot better position than we are.
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You cannot coach poor players to be better.
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But surely Poch did if he got us top 4 and into the CL final
posted on 20/3/21
comment by Jose’sNoSpur (U22473)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, bullies must never be allowed to win (U20567)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by #PhenagelsmannIN(U20037)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting some young players from less teams, could easily work out.
I agree with the premise of the article but Ayling especially isn't great at all imo.
Leeds are the opposite to spurs in the way they have few great players but are well coached and drilled with a clear way of playing in every game, rather than worrying about the opposition too much like Jose does.
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Take it you would sooner be in Leeds position then, 11th with six less points. Playing pretty football doesn`t mean getting more points, and that is the whole idea of a league, it is a points based competition. Plenty of boring sides throughout history have won the league.
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I'm literally saying that our better players, if better coached, would be in a lot better position than we are.
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You cannot coach poor players to be better.
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Totally wrong, all players can be improved by good coaching.
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Exactly! Bielsa has proven it. We have players who most of us thought would never step up to PL level. The team last night was, apart from Meslier, Raphina and Llorente, made up of players at the club when he took over 1000 days ago.