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Why are we supposed to be good?

So we topped the group and conceded one goal in doing so. We're also poor to watch but have some talent going forward.

Most don't seem happy. I'm looking at it and thinking Southgate has set us up defensively, we rarely concede, and hopefully we can sneak some results. That he's doing it on purpose and therefore isn't an inept clown. I also think he trying to play certain players into fitness.

Many question the decision to include Maguire and Henderson, persisting with Kane and bringing on Rashford instead of Sancho. All four have captained their club though and I feel this may well pay off and our best players, or most talented, have little experience.

I also don't get why people think we should be good. Just going by comments on here;

Pickford - short armed liability
Walker - Can't defend
Stone - Can't defend
Maguire - cart horse banter signing
Shaw - fat
Rice - no way worth £60m
Phillips - N/A
Saka - good
Grealish - very good
Sterling - headless chicken
Sancho - overrated
Rashford - Gashford
Kane - unfit penalty merchant
Foden - very good
Henderson - unfit crab

This type of stuff is said ALL the time too. So why do people think we're good?

I'll take us playing this shiiiiiiiiit if we can sneak a few results I reckon and if not Southgate will likely be sacked.

TL:DR?

List England's world class players and then say why we should be rolling teams over.

posted on 24/6/21

As I said on the Trannies thread, what has Ferran Torres done that the others mentioned above haven't? Scored 7 goals as opposed to 6? Hardly a significant difference is it.

Nobody is talking about them being world class. But they don't have to be world class to be on the same levels, or better than, Pedri, Moreno, Torres etc because they aren't either.

Tbh, I'm not sitting down and dissecting what I'd do in every given situation on the field and who would run where, who passes where etc. I just don't have the time. However, I reckon there is a brave enough manager out there that can get the best out of our best players in this team.

posted on 24/6/21

He's done as much as ours but doesn't start, that's the point.

People have literally called them world class hence the quotation marks.

Tbh the only things on here that havent been said by people are the things you've made up.

I am sure you're not going to dissect it too.

posted on 24/6/21

Made up what.

I haven't called them world class though, so I'm not sure why you've even mentioned that either.

Maybe that's why Spain finished 2nd in their group because they aren't starting their better attacking players. Or, conversely, we could argue that Torres isn't as good as Foden or Sterling, which I don't think he is. The fact you're looking at just goals alone as your argument is just silly really as our players offer far more than just that anyway.

posted on 24/6/21

Made up what
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You have repeatedly made things up about what has been said. At least three times in fact.

posted on 24/6/21

Based off the impressions you've been giving from the things you have been saying. Like when I said you're making it sound like we are minnows by playing down our squad.

posted on 24/6/21

I've quite clearly stated we are better than most teams which is why we beat them.

I really don't think you have read this thread properly.

posted on 24/6/21

Not exactly, you're just proceeding to say we're good, but not that good, which isn't actually true.

Anyway I'll leave it at that.

posted on 24/6/21

Not exactly, you're just proceeding to say we're good, but not that good, which isn't actually true.
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There's literally nothing to suggest you're right I'm afraid.

posted on 24/6/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not exactly, you're just proceeding to say we're good, but not that good, which isn't actually true.
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There's literally nothing to suggest you're right I'm afraid.
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Then in that case you're as guilty as me for not reading what has been said correctly then. Now I will actually leave it, just thought I'd make that point.

posted on 24/6/21

If you think we're THAT good, as you say above is true, then I think you'll end up even more disappointed and if not then you will have been wrong about Southgate too.

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