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Why are we supposed to be good?

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posted on 22/6/21

We concede no goals

posted on 22/6/21

Fodens been meh

posted on 22/6/21

We’re a good team over all, it’s just there are better, namely France

posted on 22/6/21

Drop Rice and place a decent attacking mf in there and we should be much h better.

comment by Tyke (U9181)

posted on 22/6/21

Saka only 'good'? he was clearly MOM.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/6/21

You didn't concede

But you must be the most efficient team in the Euros, 2 goals scored

posted on 22/6/21

Saka and grealish made a massive difference tonight

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 1 minute ago
Saka only 'good'? he was clearly MOM.
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I mean in general. Yeah he had a good game and commited players. We need more of that.

posted on 22/6/21

Tribalism exists among our fans more so than any other country. We don't really all pull together as one even if we pretend we do.

Example: When the commentator said Henderson still hadn't scored for England after his goal was ruled out I chuckled to myself. Why? Because I'm a Utd fan who hates the scousers.

Nothing will ever change on that front.

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 seconds ago
Tribalism exists among our fans more so than any other country. We don't really all pull together as one even if we pretend we do.

Example: When the commentator said Henderson still hadn't scored for England after his goal was ruled out I chuckled to myself. Why? Because I'm a Utd fan who hates the scousers.

Nothing will ever change on that front.
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Apparently it's the same with players in the past too. Less so now apparently.

comment by Tyke (U9181)

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 1 minute ago
Saka only 'good'? he was clearly MOM.
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I mean in general. Yeah he had a good game and commited players. We need more of that.
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Good point.

posted on 22/6/21

We should be good, based on club performances of certain players.
However, those players are good playing in different formations or styles at club level. Southgate's job is to provide a balance of those skills. Not sure he's that great at it, but we are hard to beat, so while that rings true, we have a chance in most games just due to individual abilities.

posted on 22/6/21

We've been sneaking results against average teams—we won't do that against the better sides unless we play better.

posted on 22/6/21

Bar Kane not a single one of our players is the best in their position in their league. Not a single one.

So why do people think we should be rolling teams over? We nearly always best teams worse than us. Where we need to improve is in results against teams our equal and better and maybe the dull stuff is the way to do it. Hopefully playing people into fitness helps down the line too. We start halves so brightly every game but then tail off.

We'll see I guess.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/6/21

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
We've been sneaking results against average teams—we won't do that against the better sides unless we play better.
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This

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Oranje Boven - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
We've been sneaking results against average teams—we won't do that against the better sides unless we play better.
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This
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We never do though. That's England.

Spain on penos, that's the last time we beat someone our equal or better. 25 years ago.

We've topped the group at the end of the day.

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 11 minutes ago
Saka and grealish made a massive difference tonight
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The fullbacks made the biggest difference. That and the knock on effect was how Southgate was able to use Saka in particular. Reverted after half time again though.

Very frustrating he didn’t do it at all in the first two games.

posted on 22/6/21

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 11 minutes ago
Saka and grealish made a massive difference tonight
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The fullbacks made the biggest difference. That and the knock on effect was how Southgate was able to use Saka in particular. Reverted after half time again though.

Very frustrating he didn’t do it at all in the first two games.

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That's what I'm saying though. It's not an accident, he's not inept, it's the choice he's made.

I've feeling it may get a result too. Just one though.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Oranje Boven - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
We've been sneaking results against average teams—we won't do that against the better sides unless we play better.
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This
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We never do though. That's England.

Spain on penos, that's the last time we beat someone our equal or better. 25 years ago.

We've topped the group at the end of the day.
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When I see the players you have at your disposal, on paper, you should be world beaters. No joke. You have/had some facking talent/world class players over the years. It is your managers that are the problem imo.

Kane is poor, but why? He didnt forget how to score after his last match with Spurs.

posted on 22/6/21

Yeah I just disagreed with his choices in the past two games and most of tonight too tbh.

I agree it might work again.

posted on 22/6/21

Who are our world class players?

posted on 22/6/21

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 25 seconds ago
Yeah I just disagreed with his choices in the past two games and most of tonight too tbh.

I agree it might work again.
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It's woeful to watch.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Who are our world class players?
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G Neville
Rooney
Terry
Scholes
Beckham
Ferdinand
Cole
Shearer
Gerrard
Lampard
Kane

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Oranje Boven - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Who are our world class players?
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G Neville
Rooney
Terry
Scholes
Beckham
Ferdinand
Cole
Shearer
Gerrard
Lampard
Kane

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I meant now. I count one and he ain't playing like it.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/6/21

I said "You have/had some facking talent/world class players over the years."

If you ask for now, talent and world class

Kane
Bellingham
Saka
Sancho
Foden
Grealish

You dont need a squad of 11 world class players to be very good. You need 1 or 2 world class players and talent and a mix of experienced and young. And thats what you have.

Add good players like

Shaw
Maguire
Henderson
Rashford

And you really should be player a lot better than you do now man.

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