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Evra on Moyesie

Moyes only lasted ten months in the job as United slumped down the table, and was replaced by Ryan Giggs on a caretaker basis before Louis van Gaal took over in the summer of 2014.

Evra recalled how the transition came about in his new book, which has been serialised in The Times, explaining that the United fear factor quickly evaporated.

“Old Trafford had simply stopped being a fortress. You only had to look at David’s face to see the pressure he was under."

“But the way he dealt with it and us was a big mistake. In the dressing room before one game, he said, ‘Guys, you’ve won everything here, you have to show me the way to win. I have never won the league, you have to show me how to do it.’

“I could see what David was trying to do by making the players feel responsible, but Ferguson would never have asked his players how to win a game. He would have told us how to do it.

“Some players used that against him because they thought they were now in charge. Players who’d accepted being on the bench under Ferguson would complain if they were on the bench under Moyes. That made a very hard job even harder."


Evra describes how a series of incidents undermined Moyes’ authority leading up to a 2-0 defeat to his former side Everton.

Toffees fans abused the team bus post-match, with Ryan Giggs losing his cool, which eventually led to a management change.

“On Easter Sunday 2014, we lost 2-0 to Everton. Giggsy, who had been dropped, went mad after that match when Everton fans surrounded our bus and started abusing us," Evra explains.

“One of them threw something that bounced off the coach window. Giggsy stood up on the coach and shouted: ‘F***ing Everton fans are now taking the p*** out of us. Enough is enough.’

“He was right. The next day, the senior players – myself, Vida [Nemanja Vidic], Wayne [Rooney], Giggsy, Rio [Ferdinand] and Michael Carrick – were summoned to Ed Woodward’s office. I think David knew what was happening. Ed spoke to us players separately. I was the last to go in. ‘Is David Moyes still the man to lead this team?’ he asked.

“‘The players are the first people who are responsible,’ I replied. ‘We are to blame more than the manager, but the dressing room is not a happy place.’ ‘I know,’ said Ed. ‘Thank you for your honesty. We will see what decision we take.’

Link: https://talksport.com/football/969228/man-united-news-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-patrice-evra-david-moyes/

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’m not sure, just read a few things that have come out through the media over the last week.

I’m surprised his abuse wasn’t discussed on here.
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The sensitive souls that inhabit this website means it's the exact place it should be discussed!
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not hugely pun-friendly though is it?
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No. It isn't. I think we can cover the real issues here too.
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First I've heard of this abuse. Wouldn't wish that kind of thing on anyone.

posted on 26/10/21

It’s a pretty big story.

posted on 26/10/21

Don’t normally read (auto)biographies but might give this one a wizz

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 29 minutes ago
I’m not sure, just read a few things that have come out through the media over the last week.

I’m surprised his abuse wasn’t discussed on here.
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That's because you didn't create a thread about it.

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
It’s a pretty big story.
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Tbh if it's not mentioned on here Im not likely to hear it

posted on 26/10/21

Hearing the written word is very mephistical of you.

posted on 26/10/21

The quotes sound far too sanitised and rehearsed from someone as deranged and insane as evra is.

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 37 minutes ago
Hearing the written word is very mephistical of you.
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posted on 26/10/21

posted on 28/10/21

comment by The Pun-isher (U21588)
posted 1 day, 16 hours ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 4 minutes ago
Maidenhead United……!
We’ve all done it …….Lol….
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Only just noticed myself

I wonder how Maidenhead are doing, might be worth a follow these days
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Brain fart from me. I am out of practice

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